Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-72.77.162.76-20140207143619/@comment-13129747-20140210144930

Ok, so if you are looking to gain points to move up the ladder on your team OR in the final rankings, defeating a boss doesn't matter. Each hit you deal to the boss gives you an automatic point increase based on amount of damage dealt. You no longer have to wait for a boss to be killed to receive the points.

The other side of that coin is that I don't believe you get any rubies until the boss is defeated. If the boss is not defeated, the only rewards are in the form of energon for the first attack, and MVP going to the most points dealt (this, I assume counts towards your daily number of MVP totals, it is unclear whether or not the boss needs to be defeated for you to be credited with the MVP in the daily team rankings).

Now, since the only guaranteed way to get a raid card is through rubies or diamonds (let's concentrate on rubies here), you have to defeat the bosses to increase your ruby count. With the enormous boost in boss HP, it becomes difficult after the first day to even get enough rubies to do a pull.

If that logic is off, please correct me.