Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-9605025-20150328164912/@comment-9890645-20150404131509

CorporateJP wrote: Khan: Montalbahn was Mexican, granted, but he pulled off a great character of Asian/Indian decent. Not a knock, but my eyes tell me there's a difference here between a darker-skinned actor and a pasty fellow (however, great) actor from the U.K. "Whitewash" was a term that was thrown around by multiple media outlets, and I have to agree. Seriously...what if Uhura was played by, say, Emma Roberts or Michelle Rodriguez. Seriously...you wouldn't buy into that. Yeah, Takei is Japanese, Cho is Korean. But at least he's still Asian, and Takei gave his blessing.

I could kiss Karl Urban, and I don't swing that way. Dude is a fan, too. After the first movie, he became my new favorite actor.

They all have done it justice.

Cumberbatch hit the role on the head. He's great. He just doesn't look the part. Just saying. About as fucked up as Kristy Alley not playing Saavik in 3 and 4 (still not over that).

Not mad about the flipped Kirk-Spock roles, just corney because of the exact lines flipped and scenario being a carbon copy. It was a cheap pop to draw a rise of OG fans, and in my opinion, totally a backfire.

Maybe I'm just a whore from the old school, but I'm fine with that. I'd rather go out as a gatekeeper of all that was... Meh, if it's just the racial issue with Khan, I could give two fucks less. We live in a world where they remake Annie with black actors and Ghostbusters with women in the lead roles. If they (Hollywood) don't give two fucks about changing it, me giving a million fucks ain't gonna stop it from happening.

Dunno I'd go that far with Karl Urban lol... but he is good.

I'm probably one of the few who didn't care much for Kirstie Alley as Saavik.

I didn't think the switch was cheap. I was laughing during that whole scene! Although I feel the cheapest stunt they pulled in the whole series so far was the deus ex machina of Khan's blood bringing Kirk back. I do get, however, that they a) weren't about to go killing off a main character and also b) didn't want to be pigeonholed into "The Search for Spock"... while still giving us the canonical nod of the similar endings.

I love the old school, don't get me wrong, but there's only so far I will go in criticizing the new stuff for not being like the old. Two cases in point here:

- A friend and I are both hardcore Yankees fans... but he refuses to even consider stepping foot inside the new Yankee Stadium because "it's not the old stadium." The "old stadium" looked good on the inside - and the new stadium duplicates that - but the non-field-and-seating areas of Old Yankee were an absolute sweatbox shithole that the new stadium corrects. I've been there a few times already (including their first win in the joint).

- My biggest problem with Bayformers, besides the bad acting, is that, aside from OP and Bee, you can't fucking tell who is who in robot mode...

One thing to keep in mind is that these movies are being made for a different generation and in a different time. It was good for the old ST movies to be super-cerebral; the series started in the 1970s, and people gave a shit about that back then. I think the change from cerebral movies to flashy movies is what really put the brakes on the TNG movies. Now, movie releases aren't big unless they're summer releases, and summer releases are almost obligated to be action-packed affairs. It's the state of the world we live in, and I don't have the time or energy to care about fighting those trends. I'd rather just sit back and find something to enjoy in the show.