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Runamuk Prime

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I am leaving the Facebook page and why.
« on: Today at 06:37:14 AM » Here is the explanation.

A few weeks back a member by the name of SlyTFL posted a forum post about how to use an exploit in TFL to get cheaper prices on the bridge and items. I gave the forum link to Mobage with the players name that called it out and asked that they not ban him for making us on the forums aware of it. They contacted Sly and got the details from him as well as give him a reward for pointing it out. I did this because I felt it was the proper thing to do with an exploit of this nature. They should know the code is broken and fix it so that we are all on the same playing field. When I did this I had no clue anyone was using it and it was not my intention to get anyone in trouble. It was simple, game is broken please fix it. Sly came back to me a little upset that he didn't get enough of a reward for his work. He asked me if he should start giving the exploit out to people and what would they think of that. I did not reply to this message and I moved on.

Flash forward a couple weeks and Mobage is handing out suspensions to players caught using the exploit. Long story short some of our friends were suspended for using it. They of course had reasons for being suspended but we all know why the got suspended. We had a private chat and I kept asking questions until I got the truth. They claimed they were using the exploits to make them fully functional to give out to everyone in the group. I am sorry but I was not aware that we were looking for hacks nor have I ever been asked to use one and I would not have been ok with them being passed out to everyone in the group. After all was said and done I started to get smart ass remarks being made in the chat about being a snitch. So I called them out and left the chat. I messaged Y2k to find out why the tables had been turned and the conversation went not so well. I am not going to post a pm because that is a violation of privacy. I will summarize it in saying that I went from being a narc to a self imposed morality police officer to I should have just looked away. I was told that my questioning was acting as judge, jury and executioner of my friends who were only doing it because they intended to help everyone screw Mobage. I informed Y2k that I never narced anyone out. I never turned in a list of names of people that I knew or thought was using the exploit. I told him exactly what happened. I turned in information that was important to the game design team to fix a hole in the code that allowed people to manipulate the game to their advantage. It was Mobage that dug out the people using the exploit and some of them happen to be our friends. During this conversations I heard about my smug attitude after they became collateral damage and how I mistreated them for making a mistake and that I was acting high and mighty. Yes I did ask strong questions until they admitted using the exploit. I am aware that Jerry has spent more money on this game than I ever have. I am aware that they stated they did it for good causes to help the players screw Mobage for screwing them. My only desire was to get to the truth of why they were suspended so I and everyone else who games with them could decide if I or we wanted to continue to game with them. I personally don't care for cheats and I don't sympathize with people who get banned for using them. No amount of justification will change my mind and I feel the situation would be ten times worse if they had actually passed the exploit out. I was told I should have asked the group before I submitted the exploit and cleared it with everyone first.

To make a long story short. I was won't game with cheaters. I won't stand with a group that tells me my attitude towards people busted using cheats is inappropriate. I won't stand beside people that fillet a girl for buying discounted coins and crucify those that support her and look the other way and then themselves tell me that I should have done the same thing in our situation. Why was it so wrong for her to do it and her friends stick up for her but it's OK for our guys to cheat and we should stand up for them and act like they just made a mistake. We wanted itsme permanently banned from the game and we lost our damn minds when she was allowed to make a new account but now that the shoe is on the other foot we should act like nothing happened.

You want to call me a narc, no problem. You want to tell me I was too harsh on these people for using cheats... I say that it is no different than the behavior that was demonstrated prior when it was somebody that wasn't your friend. How can you judge me for asking questions? I didn't call them names. I didn't flame them and troll them all over the internet. I called them out on their excuses for why they were banned. Then when they admitted to it I decided that I would not be gaming with them anymore. It wasn't my decision for them to use the exploits. I simply gave the game company the information I was given without knowledge of anyone using them. It never crossed my mind that these guys would get banned. I thought maybe some of the newer players that wanted the rewards easily would be the ones to have used them if any. These guys already had good decks. I didn't accept the answer that they did it to help the community by arming them with cheats to screw Mobage. I wouldn't support that and if they had good intentions they should have told us up front their plan and let us walk away. Not do it behind our backs and make us all look like cheaters.

So in summary. I was chastised for my actions and told I was wrong. I was given the impression that I sold my friends out intentionally and that I should have forgiven them for using the cheats and moved on. I should not have drilled them and I should not be so high and mighty wanting to do the right thing. I can't be trusted and I got their friends in trouble. I am a bus driver and a narc. But it was ok for these guys to use the cheats! The best part is that I am this awful person for how I acted and these guys are effing victims. I should have looked past it!

So I am walking away from the Facebook page. I will continue this website but right now the Mafia teams are up in the air. If we continue it will be done on this website and will have no affiliation with the Fanpage. Teams will most likely have to be reshuffled because people will either drop out or maybe ejected. We will just have to see how much interest is left in the project and what we want to do from here. I will game better knowing that people aren't using cheats and that I didn't look past it!« Last Edit: Today at 06:46:38 AM by Runamuk Prime »