Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-23947276-20131024221423/@comment-13789016-20131028175546

Ranoake wrote: Patorikku927 wrote: Ran, I know what you're saying with only stating fact rather than theory, but I think this forum isn't necessarily about the 100% facts, its also and always has been speculation that is supported by some fact. I don't think its a big deal that GoC or anyone else talks about the whole Mobage makes changes on the fly thing, because that is true, we all have been stealthed. but I think the frustration of these fine tuned changes is when it happens at an inappropriate time (in the middle of an event) also, because that gives certain people an unfair advantage who put more resources in to the pre-stealthed periods.

Why can't they make those changes in the next event so that everyone is on the same playing field? this generally gives the players a feeling of being the testers rather than actual players. and hence, the animosity is born.

I sorta see the personal attack a bit, but Hypno did try to lighten it up, I don't think his comments about you about being naive were really serious. And I think he just noticed that you made a few interesting comparisons that were noteworthy. anyways, internet forums are about just making the comments that you feel, you can't control what other people say and everyone is entitled to communicate their observations.

you did some good work with the simulator Ran, thanks Alot! and I'm sure it'll save a lot of people time. but if its posted in the forum, you can bet that Mobage has seen it, and we will see if they do anything about it. I guess what I am saying is that the so called evidence people say supports their arguments are weak at best.

I agree that stealth updates happen, and they suck, I never said that wasn't true, and yes we are guinnea pigs, BUT the conclusion people jumped to is NOT supported by this, this does not mean Mobage is out to screw us! They refunded money to people that complained about the stealth updates, and even sent out a blanket apology for some of the issues. A company that was out to screw you would not do that! The evidence contradicts the assertion that they are just trying to screw us by reading the forums and changing everything we like or things that give us advantages. I can come up with lots of conclusions if I cherry pick evidence to only support my conclusion, but that is not how things work, you have to look at ALL the evidence.

What can Mobage do about a simulator? We can just reverse engineer any changes to that, they do it for all games, no matter how complex the math, though given that few people play this game compared to WoW say, it might not happen, but I don't see an problem with people optimizing decks. They provide a recommend button to do just that, why would they stop us from making our own recommend button? It just doesn't make sense to think they would. I completely agree:) what and why would they do anything about the simulator?...

the last thing that i would mention here is that yes, Mobage has "turned" it around and given out freebies, when initially I totally remember that their standard line was, sorry we can't reward you with this or that card, or no, we do not provide battle cubes as compensation... I've also gotten the response like just go talk to Apple... but we all have heard of other players getting the compensation in the same circumstance; so we detect inconsistency in responses. why? and what about the initial problem where android users were getting free bcs for watching advertisements whereas IOS users got completely screwed with nothing?

and i think EVERYONE has gotten the standard responses from support mobage which is just a cut and paste saying, did you try restarting the app? did you try doing this other thing? this is an issue with your phone... These are old responses that still happen from time to time.

slowly but surely, people's attitude to mobage will change, but you know the age old chestnut, its alot harder to gain trust back once you've lost it. Mobage done good this episode. if they keep this up, then great... but there is still alot to fix in the player's eyes for sure:)