Board Thread:Game Discussion/@comment-10744295-20131005173042/@comment-13789016-20131008025036

Danktrees1212 wrote: Patorikku927 wrote: sorry for the much delayed response Danktrees, the money to put in to a boss event for a 10X mtm has been quite often documented to be at around 200 to 250 dollars minimum (excluding the need for resources); that in my mind is what i would consider to be a high cost T1. On average now, the LOT of us who have full R5 decks are able to achieve T1 with a cost of 110 dollars (inclusive of some resources).

if you don't have R5s in your deck, you are going to need to spend the money for raid cards which will most certainly increase your buy in. if you go for 10X then i've told you the minimum cost above. hence my remark that your first T1 will be the most expensive guaranteed.

once you start to get some R5s however, your cost goes down, because you don't need as much to build an acceptable raid deck to T1; and your costs shift primarily to resources.

in any case, if I am missing something in the consideration for your costs to get 10X, or you have been just extremely lucky in getting 10Xs, I am happy to hear your thoughts as a comparison. im not so sure if 200-250 is the minimum amount needed for t1. i know i did it with a lot less than that. it really just depends how quickly you get that x10 raid card mtm'd. but my point is not that you don't need good cards, my point is that once you get the x10 raid card, you can just smash things the first few days and save up way more than enough rubies to get 8 x5 mtm raid cards.

for example, my last run, i got lucky with the bridge and got trypticon pretty quickly (less than $100). after that, i just collected rubies the first 2 days and got more than enough to field a team of 8 other x5 mtm galvatron raid cards. as a result my dp went from 22k to 32k.

i believe you are incorrect in assuming that you need a bunch of r5's to reduce the cost of the event. this is because the x5 raid cards that you get from rubies are stronger than any r5 card anyways. so once you get 9 of them, your r5's are useless. in my opinion if you are using the bridge, you only need that one x10 raid card and you're set because you will be able to collect enough rubies for the x5 cards. case in point, the x5 galvatrons replaced my 2 r5 cards as soon as i got them. this is because with the x5 bonus, they are a lot stronger than r5 cards which makes those r5 cards useless for the remainder of the event. however, if as you say, you have no intention of using the bridge, then yes you will need stronger cards but at the end of the day anyone looking to make a t1 run should have a decent deck to begin with which should allow for easy farming of rubies during the first 2 days of weak bosses. you do not need a particularly strong deck to do damage and farm rubies in the first two days. the end result being you will field a full team of x5 raid cards by the time the stronger bosses come out thus rendering your r5 cards useless for the remainder of the event. which ties into my point that you do not need an amazing deck full of r5's to go for a t1 run. you only need to plan it out and stick to the plan. your deck does not need to be the strongest it can possibly be on the first 2 days which gives you enough time to stash rubies and make it stronger for when you need it.

it is probably possible to make t1 without spending money but you need to build up a lot of resources, in particular the first day of energon farming is very very important. the only thing you need to have are cubes so you would need to save those up too. but being that there's probably a 2-3 week gap in between boss events now, it shouldnt be too hard to save them up. if anything spending 6 bucks on each event to purchase those 60 cubes would probably help a lot. and maybe even the 30 cube packs. while that obviously does cost money, it is not that much relative to the 200-250 dollars you're referring to. if you manage those resources correctly and use them at the appropriate times i'm sure it can be done. last cutoff was around 23-24 mil. i think that's doable as a free player. i was able to get up to 9-10 mil or so without really trying that hard and not farming at all with just r4 cards. so i think it's possible to make t1 without r5's, it'll just take up a lot of your time. i'd try it but i work during the day so i don't think i can do it. ... ugh... i dunno what to say anymore. yes... you are correct if you are lucky... and get an X10, you can T1 at a lower cost...............