I feel like such an a-hole for not checking out your Wiki before now. You have done a fine job sir, and you should be proud. You're going to have to show me how to implement the latest WAM Score, when it actually is going to start mattering to me.
Thanks for the compliment. However, as you can probably guess, I did not do this all by myself. In fact, I wasn't even part of the founding community (or whatever the term is). I joined about 1 to 1.5 years into the project. It was because of my involvement and commitment to maintaining the wiki that I was promoted to admin (and recently bureaucrat).
There is no need to feel bad about not visiting the wiki. There are thousands of wikis on Fandom (not to mention Gamepedia wikis). It is simply unreasonable to visit them all. Most of us on Community Central have wikis that we administer but I would estimate we almost never visit each others' wikis a whole lot. On the flip side, there are tons of really active and helpful users to never visit Community Central.
I am not sure what the status of WAM is for UCP wikis. I assume Fandom will port it at some point if they haven't already. As for the widget you see in the right rail, that is RailWAM. I thought I would link to it in case you were wondering. Although, knowing you, you probably already clicked the links and found it yourself. Unfortunately, it is a custom JS script; so I don't know when your wiki would be able to use it.
BTW, I had a problem while trying to 'add image' to my profile page here. I uploaded my Avatar fine, and it got into the file system, but i got the box has all the placement options and what have you, but when I click on Add Image there, nothing happens. I ending up adding it to my user page via source code instead. I'm not sure if that box is yours or if it belongs to the legacy platform.
You should work on your profile here. You are the admin after all. Try adding an image from that button.
BTW, I think I like the legacy forums much better than the UCP forums. Editing and creating a forum post is much more seamless with the rest of the wiki, and I am just not getting what the advantage is to the UCP forums. Editing is much different than using wikitext. I haven't figured out yet how to place an internal link in one of my forum's post, other than 'tagging' it to the post.
That "box" is a standard feature for legacy wikis. I haven't used it in a while so it is possible it has some new bugs I am not aware of. Give it a try on another wiki like Community Central and see if you still have issues. If so, then perhaps you should file a support ticket about it.
Yes, I should actually fill my user page. It is just hard to find the motivation for it given that almost no one comes around anymore.
Fandom's legacy platform uses a custom-made thread-based feature for Forum, message walls, article comments, and blog comments. The UCP replaces this with Feeds and thus the corresponding features are quite different. According to staff, the legacy thread-based solution is poorly documented, hard to maintain, and not very compatible with MediaWiki. The new solution is still not compatible with MediaWiki. In fact, it is essentially a completely separate platform. However, staff claim that the code is better organized/documented and that the feature is more future-proof. Because Feeds is not integrated with MediaWiki, you cannot use wikitext. Therefore, no internal linking syntax. In fact, tagging articles is a relatively recent development.
Haha. As long as the relationship doesn't turn parasitic, I don't mind.
Hey Qedsa40, great to be hearing from you again. That depends on which category and on which page. Some categories are added by templates so they may not be removable. Could you provide a link to the page as well as tell me which category you want removed?
Both their factions are labelled wrongly according to their card.
Anyway, I really like love this game so much and was quite sad when it had to shut down. I mentioned in my blog that I more or less found a replacement to this game where it's an actual TCG with actual transforming characters! Speaking of this wiki, I even have it added as my favourite community, showing how loyal I am to it. Anyway, I have noticed that some pages either missing their images and (on my fault) had low resolution so sorry about that. I still had the game in my library thankfully and am wondering if I can extract some files with some third party programs to add better quality images.
Okay, so those categories are added based on the value specified in the template. As you noted, the template has been given the wrong value which is why they are in the wrong category. To fix it, you can edit the page by clicking the edit button at the top-right of the page. When you do this, you should see a bunch of form fields. Change the one labeled "Faction" to the correct value and the category should be automatically changed. In the section lebeled "Free text", you will see the wikitext corresponding to the categories that were added manually. Remove the "[[Category:Decepticons]]" that was added when you added the category using the "Add category" button on the page.
I really liked the game too. But as I said in my reply to your blog, I am not interested in dishing out money for TCGs at this time. I don't know if you will be able to extract the images or not. It depends on whether or not they were stored server-side. I am guessing they were because it would have required a lot of storage space to keep them on a mobile device. However, you are free to try. Casualkirk and I took screen shots of every card in the cyberdex before the game was shutdown. However, I have weapons only and Casualkirk has been busy with other things for some time now.
That is great. However, we are currently in the process of setting up a better way of doing it. So, for now, the cyberdex isn't ready to be updated. If you would like to know more about the changes we are making (or even why we are making them), I can tell you.
I don't want to offend you or anything but since you are relatively new to the wiki, I just want to make sure we are on the same page. Per Casualkirk's comment on your wall, I suggest you view the Manual of Style if you have not already done so. This provides a standard naming scheme for card images meant for use on card pages. Card name conflicts are a fairly recent occurrence so we are still working on sorting that out with regards to image names. The cyberdex has yet to be standardized so, naturally, we are still working that out as well.
Having a standard naming scheme is important because it makes managing the 5000+ images much easier. This is particularly important since the close of the game. We want to be able to return to this site at any time in the future without needing to re-sort through a tangled mess of pages and files.
I you would like to know anything more about current or in progress standards for this wiki, let me know. Also, if you have any suggestions, please share them.
I took a quick look at the achievements settings and still cannot figure everything out. However, I did find out that we have been "cheated". Apparently, an achievements track for characters was created but never enabled. I estimate that our scores would have been somewhere between 500 and 1000 points higher with that track enabled. We could enable it now but badges are not awarded retroactively.
As for the weapons track, I still haven't figured out what the deal is.
I have thought about this some more and have come to a disturbing conclusion. It appears that achievements do not look at edits made to subcategories. Since we restructured the categories so that pages are no longer added directly to Category:Characters and Category:Weapons, the achievments are no longer counting edits on card pages. I have asked on Community Central how one might work around this issue. Hopefully there is a work-around.
Wow! Posting the response above gave me the 76,000th edit. Talk about lucky.
That is good system. Then you get your edit in at the start of the UTC day.
When did this happen? I used that button just a day or two ago.
I tried looking around and couldn't find anything obvious that would cause the formedit issue. I checked my own edit history and used it on the 12th. When was the last time it worked for you? I will go on Community Central and see if I can find something about this.
I have viewed the form using my PC. I think whatever they did made the input fields larger. It appears that the input text has a lot more white space around it. The dropdown lists are the most obvious but I think the text boxes also get larger. The text font might have changed as well but I'm not sure.
Yeah, don't feel bad. I inadvertently missed a day with more than 200-odd days towards the 365 day Wiki Hero badge. I don't think I could have maintained a daily pattern for much longer. Anyway, will be doing a burst of updates for the last 2 events probably on Monday.
I figured as much (with regards to trying to keep up). They really should have built-in some leniency policy. Something like, 1 slip allowed every 2 months. Oh well. You are still doing better than I am.
Well, I was in the middle of doing some important real-life work. I did the math and, believe it or not, revising the cyberdex still has more than enough edits (the characters have 330+ pages alone of which I have created < 100). I am not sure if that is good (because I can still get the badge) or bad (because that means there is still a lot of editing to do).
I would say grossly difficult. The requirement for getting it is perfectly clear. I appreciate the sentiment though. What is unfair (but hasn't happened in a while) is when Wikia's servers are down for > 24 hours; forcing everyone's counters to reset.
Hey guys. I am setting this up because I have had a recent look at the stats for this wiki. Unfortunately, despite having over 24,000,000 registered users, only 26 (including us) have been active in the last month. I don't know about the two of you, but that is really discouraging for me. I would guess most of the traffic went to the Facebook groups. I understand that the game is on its way out, but there are definitely more than 26 people still playing (and new people joining).
As we all know, Casualkirk and I put significant effort into maintaining the content portion of the wiki. Often, it is just the two of us. While I do like the wiki, I think we must determine where to "draw the line". Is 23 other users significant enough; considering most of them only use the forums? I am not suggesting that we close or abandon the wiki. However, there comes a point where the effort is simply wasted.
Should we engage the other users on this issue? Perhaps they could provide some help on figuring out how to get more traffic.
Another thing to consider is that some people choose to use this wiki anonymously. I can understand why they may choose to do so (as I did in the beginning). However, this type of activity is not as well tracked by Wikia. If we could get these users to register, it would give us a more complete picture of what we are dealing with (good or bad).
Comments, suggestions, opinions?
I don't know what is going on with the statistics page but now is says 7,000,000 registered users. Seems more reasonable but still pretty high.
Do we see what the number of unique views are? I imagine only a small percentage of users visiting the wiki for information are going to take the trouble to register an account. I didn't do so until I had updates to contribute, and also, to join the chat.
OK, I interpreted that as unregistered users who make changes without an account, and get identified simply as an IP address. But I was referring to users who are just visiting in "read mode", who I think of as the target audience of these pages.
Well, to your other points, wanting some kind of confirmation that your efforts are worthwhile, and reaching everyone that could benefit from them is totally understandable. I also record a weekly gaming podcast, and can relate to trying to build an audience.
The declining participation here is likely a reflection of the overall diminished player population. Even on the Facebook fan pages, you don't see the number of updates you used to. So I'm not sure that a "pledge drive" would net any positive results. Plus, it takes a bit of extra effort to want to sign up and add content, and I think the majority of visitors just aren't going to do that.
Personally, I first found this wiki when trying to figure out which of my cards were worth upgrading, and then noticed I had some cards that were missing, and so that's when I decided to register and start adding data.
I guess I gain enough satisfaction from making the data available to the players that remain. If the game is on it's way out, at least we've done our best to keep a record of what it was.
I suppose it couldn't hurt to "advertise" here and there to the Facebook groups, there's always someone who doesn't know this wiki exists.
I see your point and for the longest time would have agreed whole heartedly. But the fact I am really stuck on right now is that, from the available stats, we only have 26 trackable users while the game still has thousands. Those numbers seem to reduce the significance of the wiki to that of a high school class project. Then again, the key word being "trackable".
When I say it would be nice to have more users, I don't necessarily mean editors. It has mostly been the case that editors make a small portion of this wiki's user base.
I have been "advertising" the wiki from time to time during team events. People will respond to ally requests but not noticeably to the wiki.
I apologize for showing up late to the party. I haven't been around much since the TF:Rising rollout, largely due to my organizing work with that community (which is all FB-based) and the contacts I have within the game's development team, to whom I've been part of a group pitching ideas to them for improving the game.
I can totally understand the frustration that brings this commentary up. I think there are three reasons this is happening:
1. TFLU - now TFGU - makes it their mission to draw people to their site at all times. They have constantly and consistently advertised.
2. There are now multiple other TF-based games to play. There's Rising, Battle Tactics, and there is a new Chinese game (I believe called Frontiers) that was just released. The Wikia is really explicitly for TFL, and, thus, can be viewed as not supporting the other games.
3. TFL is largely viewed as a dying game, given the months and months of reruns and the loss of players to other games.
I feel confident in leaving the decision on what to do with this site up to you guys, as you're the ones keeping it alive right now.
As I am sure you already read, the biggest issue is that we do not have the entire picture. The stats available to us only track registered editing users so there is no way to tell how many anonymous users and/or read-only users there are. I understand that the game is dying and that is going to decrease traffic. However, my point is that the game is still popular enough to expect more than 30 participants.
As for the narrow focus of this wiki, I have looked around briefly at other wikis. I have found a few generic Transformers wikis; none of which cover this game with the same level of detail. Most of them only briefly mention it as yet another product. I have not found another wiki focused on this game. Therefore, I am lead to believe that the narrow yet deep focus of this wiki is actually working in our favor. However, as is already clear, we are, in a sense, competing with the FB groups.
The search I mentioned above was a while ago so I just performed another one. One site I found was tfwiki.net which I did find the first time. This is an example of a site that is current but not detailed. As far as I can tell, they do not have a card database. Another site I found was transformerslegends.org. I did not see this one during the first search. This is an example of a somewhat detailed site that is no longer current. Their last post was over 1 year ago about Cyclonus (4) Weapon.
Good catches on the SSfDK page. It was a bit messy trying to organize it all. Funny how they originally explained that adding numbers to the cards were to help match character cards to their signature weapons. Apparently, the reward weapons are not giving the signature weapon bonus with the signed reward cards. Hope that gets patched.
Yeah, I was just talking with Irongrid82 about the signature weapon issue. Perhaps someone should submit a ticket to Mobage? You have a really good point about the numbers thing. The initial intent has been entirely destroyed at this point. Also there are several mistakes that Mobage seems reluctant to fix. Overall, the intent was good but they apparently don't have the commitment to stick with it. Something interesting about this event was that they actually advertises Prowl (10) as the Advanced Operations card yet he never showed up anywhere in the event.
I am not certain but here is what I think. That Scourge (3) you have is the one associated with the new missions. If I recall correctly, Brockrb mentioned to me that Mobage named it the same as a previous episode card. Naming conflicts occur from time to time because of the various naming schemes Mobage has switched between. Not all cards can easily be converted and some are forgotten. This makes it a nighmare to try and organize all the card pages.