Nice addition! I guess that page has been neglected recently. However, I wanted to inform you that you could just use the images already on this wiki. By no means do you have to, but it might be easier than uploading your own every time.
Speedo, pleasure to meet you. I see you've been adding/editing images with MTM values. I just added Jetfire3 basic values but if the overall goal is just "art work" then i'm assuming it'll be ok, but if we all agree MTM art work is the direction we want to go with this wiki then i'll upload MTM values instead. Let me know what any of you think, just want to stay on the same page as everyone.
Andrewds1021 wrote: Is there a particular reason why we want MTM?
Andrews, are you asking the same question that i did earlier in this post?
Edit: your earlier post regarding art work was what i was going off of, thus why i uploaded non-MTM'd Jetfire3 Bot & Alt instead of MTM'd Bot & Alt. Speedo is uploading MTM'd bot and alt, so which do we want?
Speedo, Just want to make sure we're doing the right thing with MTM. All the common cards page 1 through whatever have the bot, alt, and then transcanned values just like what's in our cyberdex in our devices. Are you planning on changing the 3rd picture to MTM as well? Andrews hasn't responded to my question above so what is the goal here? We should all be on the same page.
Hi Prime, I would like to put picture robot MTM in the 3rd picture of cyberdex and the robot MTM and alt MTM on the page of the characters. By the time I would like to change all characters, common, uncommon, rare ... You like this project?
Here is what I think. The earlier pages were created by the founder and first members of this wiki. I believe they have base stats and T for third. I think we should try to stick to this. The only visual difference is the blue glow around the boarder (which subtracts from the artwork) of the card and the stats displayed. That's not saying that we cannot post MTM images or that you should stop replacing the images with multipliers in them. What I am saying is that I think base stats should get priority. In other words, take the cyber dex image if you have it. The whole point of the cyberdex page is to replicate the cyberdex and thus posting anything but base stats would be inconsistent.
Plus, changing all of them is a lot of work, produces lots of unused images, and would probably appear as "cheat" edits since I really don't think most people care about what stats are in the image since each page lists the stats.
To summarize, go with the cyberdex stats and images when possible. That is my vote.
A suggestion, put it to a vote? Perhaps different for cyberdex v. card pages. Either way, I think the cyberdex should stay the way it is otherwise it defeats its purpose. Also, I strongly feel that we shouldn't decide to change the entire format on our own. This change effects all members of this wiki and I think, even if all 3 of us agree to change to MTM, that majority vote from other members would still take priority.
My aim was not to undo the work of the founders, but I saw that the cyberdex had been abandoned and not updated, so I added several cards missing, especially the most recent ones. Then I thought to change the previous cards by inserting MTM. But if this caused a problem I'm sorry, I will not make any other changes. I thought I'd give my contribution in a section that appeared deserted.
Speedo, i like the overall project we just all need to be on the same page.
Andrews, i knew where you were going with your earlier post which is why i asked the question. I vote the cyberdex stays to original format. The character/weapon card list is what i have taken a particular interest to because i use it personally for analysis and i don't really care which type of images we use for those. It would be easier to use existing images from the cyberdex for the character card list as well so that's my vote on that.
I am not saying that you have caused trouble, I am just saying that I think we should stick to the guidelines informally set by the founders. In particular for the cyberdex. As for the individual card pages, I don't think it really matters since the MTM stars are posted.
I think that you have made wonderful contributions through filling in the gaps as best as possible. When it comes to this, any image is appreciated even if it is MTM.
However, I believe that modifying past entries is a different case. If you have a better image that still fits within the parameters of the current system (like you do when you post ones without the multiplier), there is no issue there. But, if I understand you correctly, you are thinking of changing the type of image in general from base stats to MTM. For something like that, I think there should at least be a community vote first.
Please let me know if I am misunderstanding you.
So, keep the cyberdex the same but don't really care about the individual pages?
I agree that, in the event that a trans-scanned image is missing, it is better to post something like an MTM. From my understanding you have gotten these through the PvP?
However, I still think that we should still strive for base stats when possible because that is available for all cards r1 to r3 and non-episode r4. Also, it is what people will see in the cyberdex.
Like I said, I think that MTM is okay, but we should have a preference that favors the current system. I would like to stress that this is only my opinion and if you really disagree with it, you are still free to do what you want.
Sorry guys I haven't responded, I'll clarify it doesn't matter to me what's in the individual character pages whether it's cyberdex bot/alt or full MTM'd bot/alt. I will agree images should all be the same in characters, cyberdex, etc. If we're going to go transcanned/MTM in the cyberdex then the 3rd place image title should be changed to that. I have a feeling some other wiki user will come in here and realize the 3rd image should be the image in the cyberdex of his/her device which is not a max MTM transcanned image and go through and change all the images that he/she could. we just need to be clear and concise in what we're doing with the info we put on this wiki.
Hey guys, if you agree insert in cyberdex robot / alt / trans-scan images. Where we do not have the image trans-scan insert robot MTM images. Instead on the page of the character insert robot MTM and alt MTM images. Ok?
Fair enough. we could do that. Let's make sure that is explained somewhere on page or on the "helping out" on the main screen. That way Jr. Wiki editors don't come on here and start editing without anyone's consent. Thanks :-)
Cyberdex, okay. Pages, still not sure about. I personally think the base cards are still best. Plus, like I said before, changing over is the major change, not keeping base. Personally, I don't really see a reason to standardize the page images, the relevant stats are posted anyways.
I agree with you Andrews in regards to using base cards, stats are updated within the card itself so it doesn't matter. Mobage isn't giving full MTM'd stats so we'll have to rely on people that get the rewards cards to upload max MTM'd cards. I'm now questioning the necessity of max MTM'd photo's myself.
Hey guys, we follow this line: in cyberdex we lay the cards with basic statistics. If you do not have the trans-scan card, use the MTM's. While in the page of the individual characters we use the robot and alt MTM's card.
I'm fine with change but I think we've veered off the original "artwork" concept and are now changing to MTM'd values for cards. Seems cleaner and easier to me to use the same photo's that are used in the cyberdex. Like i said, I'm fine with it if this is direction everyone wants to go.