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  • How in the hell is possible in the first 18 hours of the event get 8 UR5 Bumblebees! This guy (Seçkin Mert ) from the FBCC got it. The only way I can think this is possible is that this guy had to buy 880 chains and chained 880 times the H10 boss.

    But I think is more probable that he found a way to cheat the game. 

    So if they do it's alright, but if you pass your id game and password, oh my god you're the Devil itself. 

    Also they say if someone else win the events is a living prove that the game is a pay to win model, but if one of them win... Well the game is ok and all hail the winner.

    Give me a break!

    This boycotters have a very twisted way to think. 


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    • As I did my math, for a full run of any H level, meaning H1-2-3+boss i needed 6mins 30 sec in average.

      For 1 run.


      Lets say he does a run in 5mins, that is 12 per hour. Or for 880 runs, 73h.

      So cheater or photoshop unless someone managed to find him in PVP. I dont wanna even try to calculate how many coins were spent if he spun the SB wheel with current odds.

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    • He's got Bumblebees, not Rampages. That represents either an insane amount of money, a cheat, or a photoshop. This time my money is on the latter.

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    • Cheater. (I hate to think what that could have cost from the SB. I doubt anyone would spend that level or just flat out get THAT lucky.)

      Examine the DP Leaderboard.

      Mobage needs to address this immediately.

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    • I think we should boycott, or at least slit our wrists in protest. :)

      On the other hand, if that is money only, boy are people gonna feel like idiots they fell for this.

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    • I got 8 R5 BBs too, I didnt show you guys?

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    • Yeah, I call complete bullshit on this, even with the multiple device cheat (at least 16 in this case to get a chance at 8mtm), you still need to pull about 50 H10 runs to get that many, which is still about 13mil points, which NO ONE is even close to yet. Either has thousands to blow, or is a cheat, my money is on the later. They need to deal with this now.

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    • Mobage needs to address this immediately. Unfair to the honest players!

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    • what a loser to stop at only 8 ;P

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    • Ranoake
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      doh
      20:57, October 3, 2013
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    • You can get x10 BB from the bridge, pulling insane luck in gold medals or with rubies for 5k per pull.

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    • Buying from the space bridge is the only way I can see that happening. Even from cheating, wouldn't he have a major amount of points?

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    • 89k points per H10 run x 880 times, so a fuckload of points.

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    • If he didnt actually play his points would be low and its possible through the SB but not probable.

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    • No points means its not obtained with rubies. So money or luck in cards, and knowing mobage odds its not cards.

      So money or exploit are only viable theories.

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    • That is what I am telling you Blade,  he got some exploit, cuz we all know how is the luck in the rape bridge. 

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    • BEES! BEES EVERYWHERE!

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      Well news travel fast in this age!. He already deleted their post on fb.
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    • So do you automatically get bumblebee if you clear and H10 run then? How does that work?

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    • Well the unlimited sb gives 300 rubies per pull. So if he pulled bees during sb he could also cash in rubies that he racked up. Combined with h10 runs.

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    • BladeRy2501 wrote:
      As I did my math, for a full run of any H level, meaning H1-2-3+boss i needed 6mins 30 sec in average.

      For 1 run.


      Lets say he does a run in 5mins, that is 12 per hour. Or for 880 runs, 73h.

      So cheater or photoshop unless someone managed to find him in PVP. I dont wanna even try to calculate how many coins were spent if he spun the SB wheel with current odds.

      No one found him in PvP, I spotted in fb. He was bragging as the picture I posted in the thread. 

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    • 300 rubies per pull on the unlimited still isn't much. 3000 rubies would be $300 (10 pulls).

      With only a day into the event, it is either an exploit or just plain crazy spending.

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    • Ok been bustin my ass so far this episode and havent bought a single cube or chain and have 1 MTM Rampage and a little over 2,000 rubies, and this guy has 8 MTM Bumblebees. Mobage now is the time to right the wrong, kill this persons account ,give us some free rubies, maybe half a Bumblebee something. Like someone said earlier 5,000 rubies isan insane amount, it is comparable to a raid boss event money wise to reach that goal.

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    • How in the Name of Primus did that player get all of those Ultra Rares!!!!!!!!!!
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    • seriously... why not all 9?  why stop at 8?  I mean, if you're gonna cheat, and while that isn't 100% it is highly likely, why not go all out? ;)

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    • HypnoCT I'm sure he got the 9th Bee one hour after he bragged in fb, check the snaps and the leaderboard. There's a difference of almost 3000 points. 

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    • Hypno: 9 would have been suspicious.

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    • point taken

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    • 1. Photoshop

      - Highly possible.

      2. Pay

      - nearly impossible to pay this much of amount for a 6 days event.

      3. Cheat

      - impossible to rubies this much, if yes, it should be at undefeated no.1 ranking


      mobage need to frozen the user account and investigate

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    • I find it supremely Ironic that paying players can't understand how someone could pay that much for 8 BB when I can't understand how anyone would pay more than 0 for this game... The best part is that the irony is completely lost on them.

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    • He spent between $16 (gets BB everytime) to 96 (assuming 1/6 equal chance) or possibly more if he's unlucky?

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    • what is the multiple device cheat?

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    • Ranoake wrote: I find it supremely Ironic that paying players can't understand how someone could pay that much for 8 BB when I can't understand how anyone would pay more than 0 for this game... The best part is that the irony is completely lost on them.

      Paying players understand better than most exactly how much 8 Bumblebees would cost. Since he had that in less than 16 hours, he had to have gone through the space bridge if legit. You are talking THOUSANDS of dollars. Of course if you just won the lotto or were born into oil money, hey all bets are off ;)

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    • Yes Hypno, even Itsme, who seems to have a bottomless pit of money, had trouble getting MTM Megs in OSF. That tells me this guy is either very rich - unlikely cos then he'd be appearing regularly in T1, like Itsme has been - or exploiting, which seems more and more likely as I analyse it (many BBs yet low pts hints strongly at cheating - he should be in T1 with so many points from farming rubies)

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    • In order to even the playing field the multiple device cheat is logging in on more than one device simultaneously and using the rubies or coins at the same time thereby getting more than one chance. 

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    • 1) Great photoshop skill

      2) Someone lost his credit card

      3) Mobage audit time


      (4. Am I stung by a BEE, I am BLURR)

      PredatorWarrior

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    • 99.189.2.100 wrote: In order to even the playing field the multiple device cheat is logging in on more than one device simultaneously and using the rubies or coins at the same time thereby getting more than one chance. 

      Exactly how does that "even the playing field"?

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    • Clearly people out there are using the cheat and not everyone knows about. If those people are able to manipulate the system then other people should therefore also know how to manipulate that same system. By allowing everyone to know how to do what some others know then its now on mobage to clean up their system so its fair. 

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    • 99.189.2.100 wrote:
      In order to even the playing field the multiple device cheat is logging in on more than one device simultaneously and using the rubies or coins at the same time thereby getting more than one chance. 

      I seriously doubt that, or I could just hack my phone to never decrement the rubies and get an infinite number. I have seen my display out of synch with the server data on several occasions and as soon as it catches up, everything is back to normal.

      Easier still is to just intercept the net traffic with a proxy, no phone hack needed, and just alter every 'purchase' so that my balance does not change.

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    • Willard1976
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      Talking about how cheat the system is only the worst way to get in trouble with the rest of the TFL community. Specially the fb's haters. Btw GoC is agree with this
      05:13, October 4, 2013
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    • 175.140.228.251 wrote:
      1) Great photoshop skill

      2) Someone lost his credit card

      3) Mobage audit time


      (4. Am I stung by a BEE, I am BLURR)

      PredatorWarrior

      Predacon how someone with a photoshoped deck manage to get in the top spot in the leaderboard? 

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    • As we talked about it before, SSG1 did tell me a few interesting things, as how mobage ignores documented and reported cheats, and how some of them still arent fixed. His report and cheats found were ignored.

      Guess that takes developer time from making cards with shitty art so best no to bother them with some real work.

      I proposed then a, as SSG1 called it, a nuclear option. Make a report of all known cheats and exploits, and report to mobage, the have 1 week to fix it. I dont care how, i dont care how many people they need for it, i give zero fucks about their problems.

      If its not fixed by next event, (and i mean all of them) I would take it as they dont care, and publish all cheats in public, so anyone can wreck havoc and level the playing field, and fuck their game.

      It will be fixed, or it will burn. Its a fucking shame they take money from people, and they give no fucks when they take hundreds or thousands of dollars per paying player when someone can pull multiple cards for 1 charge.

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    • 99.189.2.100 wrote: Clearly people out there are using the cheat and not everyone knows about. If those people are able to manipulate the system then other people should therefore also know how to manipulate that same system. By allowing everyone to know how to do what some others know then its now on mobage to clean up their system so its fair. 

      Ahhh, apologies. In your original post there it sound as though you were endorsing rather than simply explaining.

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    • I would say $200 on average is what it costs to score a full MTM out of the looping SB. I believe he paid for them.

      He just paid a shit-ton for them. In order to make your first pull from rubies using the ones you get from the looping SB, you need to go to the unlimited 14 times.

      If he is the luckiest person in the world, and got 15 Bees (bots and alts), and pulled his last MTM out of the 5000 ruby bridge, that is about $514.

      Anyone who knows the looping SB knows that you are more likely to get struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark than to pull that feat of luck off.

      He paid a shit-ton.

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    • BladeRy2501 wrote:
      As we talked about it before, SSG1 did tell me a few interesting things, as how mobage ignores documented and reported cheats, and how some of them still arent fixed. His report and cheats found were ignored.

      Guess that takes developer time from making cards with shitty art so best no to bother them with some real work.

      I proposed then a, as SSG1 called it, a nuclear option. Make a report of all known cheats and exploits, and report to mobage, the have 1 week to fix it. I dont care how, i dont care how many people they need for it, i give zero fucks about their problems.

      If its not fixed by next event, (and i mean all of them) I would take it as they dont care, and publish all cheats in public, so anyone can wreck havoc and level the playing field, and fuck their game.

      It will be fixed, or it will burn. Its a fucking shame they take money from people, and they give no fucks when they take hundreds or thousands of dollars per paying player when someone can pull multiple cards for 1 charge.


      Does indeed sound like a nuclear / last ditch option, but maybe the only way anything will change

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    • CohoLips18 wrote:
      I would say $200 on average is what it costs to score a full MTM out of the looping SB. I believe he paid for them.


      I am one of those ridiculously unlucky few who have NEVER gotten a MTM raid r5 off the space bridge, despite trying numerous times and dropping ludicrous amounts of money.  Before Megatron, I hadn't even gotten a piece of Jetfire, Shockwave, Long Haul...  I've heard others getting lucky and getting them in the $150-200 range, but the most common seems to be $250-ish.  And many have dropped far more than that to walk away with an alt or 3 and no MTM to show for it.  If he was LUCKY, my guess would be in the $2000 range, which should put anyone on suicide watch ;)

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    • Blade, the problem with that option is that a lot of the higher players have invested in their deck, and aren't willing to risk it.  We know Mobage is far more likely to ban accounts rather than actually fix anything.

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    • My gut feeling is that he's paid. I've googled the name, which I wondered was middle eastern and possibly connected to some rich family. The name is actually of Turkish origin (surname and forename), but still he could be rich and more than happy to pay outright, especially if he has a gay thing for Bumblebee. We call it madness and waste of money, but to him it might be a case of simply spending a spare bit of change. Who nows......

      Anyway, Mobage will be able to see if he's actually paid for them, and they're also capable of doing the math of how long it would take for somebody to acquire them the hard way, but them doing something about it is another matter. Hey ho!!

      Odie3974

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    • 99.189.2.100 wrote:
      In order to even the playing field the multiple device cheat is logging in on more than one device simultaneously and using the rubies or coins at the same time thereby getting more than one chance. 

      It seems this exploit has been fixed. For once, good job Mobage!

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    • How so ARO? Any info on that, blog and something?

      @HypnoCT

      They can make alt account, use fake email, there is no shortage of ways to be anonymous in contacting support with Nuclear solution.

      But if overall mentality is, if i spent money and got fucked, let others end up as me, its sad beyond words.

      If i got screwed for hundreds/thousands of dollars, I would be first to tell people not to get screwed like me. Kinda like SSG1 tried, and he got shitted upon for his contribution.

      About decks. Current R5s are useless. Why? Couse its a better deck composed of 9 X5 cards pulled out in rubies, then R5s that you pissed sweat and blood (and money) to get in 6 day event.

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    • Not true at all.  x5 raid cards have been pretty weak of late until this event, and don't have near the health/defense of r5s.  So your soldier line is far better served with r5s.  Even some r5s are more worthwhile in the leader line.  That's why I bemoan the space bridge.  Anything but a x10 or even a r4 x7 isn't worth dropping cash on for me.  It's nice that they give out x5's in the ruby bridge now, but I sure as hell wouldn't pay for them anymore.  My deck, and most T1 players', are well beyond them.

      I've told people all along that this game is a rip-off, at best.  I've always said do as I say not as I do.  And I've always been very upfront and honest about what kind of money I put into it.  I tried to be an example.  If the game is a fun distraction, great... if not, then you knew the cost going in.  I was honest about my cashflow long before most others were (and a lot of T1 players never admitted what they spent).  I don't know who you think is trying to sink others with them, but it ain't me ;)

      I have heard before that Mobage also tracks by device, so fake accounts may not C-Y-A.

      If true ARO, that's great news.  Of course, I'm under no delusion that it was done for the players or game integrity, but that it would have broken their space bridge income and hurt their bottom line.  It's amazing how fast Mobage can move when there's money at stake!

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    • he must be a trillionaire..

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    • A FANDOM user
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