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    They should know by now that we aren't like they and we don't do what they do.

    And sure he won fairly in September, a guy so righteous with his self called mafia gang.

    What you can expect?

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                                   Thanks for the pics guys, you really are a great group!


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    And sure if he does is because he is entitled to do it!! ------->

    But if anybody else buy coins with discount even with itune discounted cards gift is an evil cheater and a living proof that this game is a pay to win game!!! And deserve the hell!!!!

    But he just need more cheaper gas awww!!

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    • Well, he, and the rest of the cheaters got banned for A WHOLE week. BIG DEAL. While others got banned for good. Where is the fairness in here?

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    • SonnyCiccone wrote:
      Well, he, and the rest of the cheaters got banned for A WHOLE week. BIG DEAL. While others got banned for good. Where is the fairness in here?

      We know that the punishment doesn't match. 

      But now at least we all can se theirs true colors. 

      Apparently this news already took the first casualty 

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      This time I can't see their moaning, whining, crying and bitching. 


      I hope this famous nursery don't close, they are so funny to read when they don't cry!

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    • I guess if the issue behind this exploit is jailbroken iDevices, I am off the hook.

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    • Sounds like a confession that KUBS lol come on spill haha OJ

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    • No jailbroken devices here. The last device I tried jailbroken (my obsolete PSP), I didn't like it and reformatted it back. :)

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    • I was surfing the web to collect more info and get this, is from the site of Runamuk Prime.

      I think is worth the reading


       Runamuk Prime

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      I am leaving the Facebook page and why.

      « on: Today at 06:37:14 AM » Here is the explanation.

      A few weeks back a member by the name of SlyTFL posted a forum post about how to use an exploit in TFL to get cheaper prices on the bridge and items. I gave the forum link to Mobage with the players name that called it out and asked that they not ban him for making us on the forums aware of it. They contacted Sly and got the details from him as well as give him a reward for pointing it out. I did this because I felt it was the proper thing to do with an exploit of this nature. They should know the code is broken and fix it so that we are all on the same playing field. When I did this I had no clue anyone was using it and it was not my intention to get anyone in trouble. It was simple, game is broken please fix it. Sly came back to me a little upset that he didn't get enough of a reward for his work. He asked me if he should start giving the exploit out to people and what would they think of that. I did not reply to this message and I moved on. 

      Flash forward a couple weeks and Mobage is handing out suspensions to players caught using the exploit. Long story short some of our friends were suspended for using it. They of course had reasons for being suspended but we all know why the got suspended. We had a private chat and I kept asking questions until I got the truth. They claimed they were using the exploits to make them fully functional to give out to everyone in the group. I am sorry but I was not aware that we were looking for hacks nor have I ever been asked to use one and I would not have been ok with them being passed out to everyone in the group. After all was said and done I started to get smart ass remarks being made in the chat about being a snitch. So I called them out and left the chat. I messaged Y2k to find out why the tables had been turned and the conversation went not so well. I am not going to post a pm because that is a violation of privacy. I will summarize it in saying that I went from being a narc to a self imposed morality police officer to I should have just looked away. I was told that my questioning was acting as judge, jury and executioner of my friends who were only doing it because they intended to help everyone screw Mobage. I informed Y2k that I never narced anyone out. I never turned in a list of names of people that I knew or thought was using the exploit. I told him exactly what happened. I turned in information that was important to the game design team to fix a hole in the code that allowed people to manipulate the game to their advantage. It was Mobage that dug out the people using the exploit and some of them happen to be our friends. During this conversations I heard about my smug attitude after they became collateral damage and how I mistreated them for making a mistake and that I was acting high and mighty. Yes I did ask strong questions until they admitted using the exploit. I am aware that Jerry has spent more money on this game than I ever have. I am aware that they stated they did it for good causes to help the players screw Mobage for screwing them. My only desire was to get to the truth of why they were suspended so I and everyone else who games with them could decide if I or we wanted to continue to game with them. I personally don't care for cheats and I don't sympathize with people who get banned for using them. No amount of justification will change my mind and I feel the situation would be ten times worse if they had actually passed the exploit out. I was told I should have asked the group before I submitted the exploit and cleared it with everyone first. 

      To make a long story short. I was won't game with cheaters. I won't stand with a group that tells me my attitude towards people busted using cheats is inappropriate. I won't stand beside people that fillet a girl for buying discounted coins and crucify those that support her and look the other way and then themselves tell me that I should have done the same thing in our situation. Why was it so wrong for her to do it and her friends stick up for her but it's OK for our guys to cheat and we should stand up for them and act like they just made a mistake. We wanted itsme permanently banned from the game and we lost our damn minds when she was allowed to make a new account but now that the shoe is on the other foot we should act like nothing happened. 

      You want to call me a narc, no problem. You want to tell me I was too harsh on these people for using cheats... I say that it is no different than the behavior that was demonstrated prior when it was somebody that wasn't your friend. How can you judge me for asking questions? I didn't call them names. I didn't flame them and troll them all over the internet. I called them out on their excuses for why they were banned. Then when they admitted to it I decided that I would not be gaming with them anymore. It wasn't my decision for them to use the exploits. I simply gave the game company the information I was given without knowledge of anyone using them. It never crossed my mind that these guys would get banned. I thought maybe some of the newer players that wanted the rewards easily would be the ones to have used them if any. These guys already had good decks. I didn't accept the answer that they did it to help the community by arming them with cheats to screw Mobage. I wouldn't support that and if they had good intentions they should have told us up front their plan and let us walk away. Not do it behind our backs and make us all look like cheaters. 

      So in summary. I was chastised for my actions and told I was wrong. I was given the impression that I sold my friends out intentionally and that I should have forgiven them for using the cheats and moved on. I should not have drilled them and I should not be so high and mighty wanting to do the right thing. I can't be trusted and I got their friends in trouble. I am a bus driver and a narc. But it was ok for these guys to use the cheats! The best part is that I am this awful person for how I acted and these guys are effing victims. I should have looked past it!

      So I am walking away from the Facebook page. I will continue this website but right now the Mafia teams are up in the air. If we continue it will be done on this website and will have no affiliation with the Fanpage. Teams will most likely have to be reshuffled because people will either drop out or maybe ejected. We will just have to see how much interest is left in the project and what we want to do from here. I will game better knowing that people aren't using cheats and that I didn't look past it!« Last Edit: Today at 06:46:38 AM by Runamuk Prime » 

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    • "But if anybody else buy coins with discount even with itune discounted cards gift is an evil cheater and a living proof that this game is a pay to win game!!! And deserve the hell!!!!"


      Whats the problem with buying discounted iTunes vouchers? I buy them all the time, I buy them from online retail shops that are registered sellers of Apple products? Apple are the people who sell them discounted to retails for them to sell on to the consumer discounted.

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    • Kyzaa wrote:
      "But if anybody else buy coins with discount even with itune discounted cards gift is an evil cheater and a living proof that this game is a pay to win game!!! And deserve the hell!!!!"


      Whats the problem with buying discounted iTunes vouchers? I buy them all the time, I buy them from online retail shops that are registered sellers of Apple products? Apple are the people who sell them discounted to retails for them to sell on to the consumer discounted.

      I have nothing against it, but if the FBCC find out they will hunt you down!!!

      Well they can't now.

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    • I respect this Runamuk guy's post. I would welcome him (and anyone else on TFL mafia and TFL boycott fb)  to this wiki if he is looking for a community of supportive and honest players.

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    • respect him too, he showed me way before today that he is into another height in relation to his friends.

      He is a man with principles and moral, that does not allow a game to change your way of being.

      As should be. 

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    • A few points:

      1. The argument that "I'm doing this to help people screw Mobage" is disingenuous. It's the "Robin Hood" argument - steal from the Big guy to give the poor. But two evils do not a right make. If you dislike the game, quit. Do not pirate music - pay for it. Do not hack TFL - pay for it. If it's too expensive for your taste, that's unfortunate. Vote with your feet (walk away), and your wallet (don't spend). If this product is not to your satisfaction, demand the product be changed before you purchase it. Do not purchase the product until it is to your satisfaction. Don't be a "pushover" customer. 

      2. It appears some T1 players used this cheat, which may have caused me real damage in event(s) where I nearly was in T1 and just got edged out by a bit, wasting dozens of hours and about a thousand bcs.  I think anyone who nearly T1ed the last several events has a real legal case for suing the cheaters under tort law, or at least demanding compensation.

      3. Given another game account (itsme) was recently permabaned from the game (she had to start a new account from scratch - losing her entire existing collection), these cheating accounts should also be shut down, forcing the players to start anew. Unless mobage can explain why one crime is less severe than the other. To me it sounds both are equally severe crimes.

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    • What ARO said.

      I plan on writing Mobage, particularly on that third point. How does Itsme deserve a banning and these guys a week off? What they did was far more pervasive, dishonest, and INTENTIONAL.

      Jerry made a "mistake" in trying to cheat Mobage and all of us just to screw Mobage? Suffer in permaban, punk. No "mistakes" were allowed for Itsme. Why the difference?

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    • My guess is they banned them only for a week for their own profits.

      There are only what 100-200 big spenders in the game.  If they permanently ban a group of them (how many are there?) then they are permanently cutting into a chunk of theier profits.  Itsme was easier because she was just one person. 

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    • If that is the case, Toot, then Mobage deserves not one further penny of my money, nor anyone else's who cares about integrity and fair play. (Edit: especially given their stated intent to do it to screw Mobage!!!)

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    • Agree goc, i am running low on mobacoin and about to buy another large pack to see me through a few more events. 

      But i am holding off my spending now.

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    • Toot, nah it won't hurt Mobage.  Those handful of guys should have their accounts disabled, there will be a handful more of people willing to spend to get into T1.  It's too easy to buy Mobacoin and if i'm sitting around rank 200 i'll probably talk myself into hitting that confirm button to buy a boat load of mobacoin sadly........and others will too.

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    • Just for the record, I'm not sticking up for Mobage.  Based on most of my posts the last month or so, it should be apparent that I would be the last one to do that.  I agree they should be permanently banned.  I was just throwing out a theory. 

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    • Same exact boat, ARO. Was gonna go buy a gift card today but now will hold off.

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    • Does Eagle Eye, the episode I finished 106th thanks to a P/T conference, count as one of those episodes?

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    • Why different punishment for same crime (itsme versus jerry and the gang)? Simple. She was a girl and she had nothing to do in this game (I think you see the irony). She was 1 and they are many. And ARO, the war-flower account is banned too. I already posted on mobage's FB page asking them why they have 2 different scales for same crime. Cheating is cheating. You buy cheap coins and you give your pass to a third party, you get a permanent ban. You use a exploit that gives you the same advantage, you get a 1 week suspension. I bet that in the last event from September, when jeryy won it and war-flower came second, he was using that exploit already. But who can understand how mobage works? I can't. And now, I am more than 100% sure that all those all raid cards from last event and all those people burning cubes like there was no tomorrow, got their stuff with that exploit. Lets see the next raid event. I bet that we will no longer see this happening.

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    • I sent something to Mobage (see below). I offer a couple options that I think are reasonable, and I am open to negotiation as always.

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      Dear Mobage,

      Thank you for having the transparency and courage to admit to an exploit on your blog, I am thankful Mobage has been upfront about this and it gives me confidence that Mobage is constantly improving the game.

      However, the cheating does call into question the validity of the results of past events. For instance, during The Colossus War episode, I spent over 80 hours and over 800 battle cubes for what was ultimately a narrowly failed attempt at making Top 100 in the episode for the Metroplex reward card. (see attached screenshot showing my final ranking of #105 in that event). While I was naturally very disappointed that my efforts and expenses were wasted, I did not complain at the time, as I thought the competition was fair. Now, however, I think that if these players had not cheated, I may well have gotten the top reward.

      I request that Mobage look into making fair reparations to players who were at the margins of making the top tier rewards, for fairness. As I mentioned, we spent a lot of resources - several hundreds of battle cubes and much money in the Space Bridge - only to be edged out by cheaters. In my opinion, and this can be discussed, a fair compensation would be an R5 card+weapon set of the player's choice, plus a few battle cubes. This is fair, considering that the players in the marginal (around #101-110) positions would have gotten the top R5 reward card set anyway, had these cheaters not existed.

      Alternatively, since it is arguably the cheaters' fault rather than Mobage's that this happened, Mobage could reveal the identities of the cheaters to any injured players such as myself, so that we can take appropriate actions, legal or otherwise, against them, to recover our damages suffered.

      Separately, I would suggest these cheating accounts be banned permanently, rather than suspended for only a week. I am aware a previous player, Itsme5712, was banned for violating the Mobage TOS. These players did so too. Both violations are, in my opinion, equal in severity and ought to receive the same punishment.

      Thank you.


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    • SonnyCiccone wrote:
      And ARO, the war-flower account is banned too. 


      Sonny the War-Flower account wasn't got banned. She stopped playing after The Collosus War's event. And she never logged in again.

      She is playing in a galaxy far far away..... from Mobage! 

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    • ARO, GOC, I agree with you guys they don't deserve another cent now, i'm not even sure they did before because of the product quality.  Resisting temptation after all this exploit stuff will be tough for many who are ranking well.  I'm dropping off in this event badly as i can't keep up because i have no chains.  I was at rank 300....now 1500 I made the smart decision to just farm rather than pursue a T1 finish, i couldn't talk myself into going for it this time ;-)  Smart or chicken $hite....call it what you want, LOL.....Oh well. 

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    • AndRollOut wrote:
      Agree goc, i am running low on mobacoin and about to buy another large pack to see me through a few more events. 

      But i am holding off my spending now.

      Me as well!

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    • It really bothers me that these individuals would rather "screw Mobage" as opposed to just quitting the game. It's like that player that posted on here a few weeks ago about how he frauded the company and his bank just to "get back at them".

      Why waste the time and energy doing these things when they can just simply stop playing?

      I'm beginning to think that this game is unusually addicting for some people.

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    • Yeah for some it's crack.  honestly, i had the game open and i looked over at it and i don't even want to play it right now.....Mobage has this no big deal attitude, "oh yeah we'll punish these guys for a week".  basically these same guys once they're off probation will go hard at work to find another flaw in the code to exploit to "get back" at them again.  And we all know the game is flawed.

      EDIT:  Maybe it's time for the fat lady to sing, lol

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    • Well according with the main fb page (aka TFL the game) 

      The cheaters are:

      Jerry Isham (Darthjerry808) 

      Jack M Yanosky a.k.a Jack tfl (Chinadaisymoj) who vandalized the itsme5712's profile page on this Wiki 

      Sly TFL (Titekus) 

      But this last one has another point of view, that he exposured in the Runamuk Prime's  site

      Now those pages said that they haven't anything to do with they actions and they are on their own. And revealed the names. 

      Also those pages are downsided so far. 

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    • In a competitive game such as this that requires so much from a player, permanent bans for these accounts should be issued without question. I am personally getting tired of competing event after event when players in the current top 100 are still using cheats and nothing seems to be done about it. I am glad that the XBOX One will be released soon.

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    • 2 points from me:

      I just saw darthjerrys site called transformers legends uncut... Omg this guy has a distinct hate for itsme. And the way he presents himself is totally concerning, it's like the guy is going to take his machine gun and let loose on the world. This is the first time I've really looked into the itsme situation and the fb individuals that seemingly lynched her. In any case I definitely see the hypocrisy that everyone sees now. And I am glad that this runamuk had the courage to call his friends on it. That's really good character.

      As for further spending. I too am sick of these people using exploits (not necessarily only the fb people) running up the point totals, bullshit that they were going to share the exploit and bullshit that they were going to do it for their benefit. (Ohyeah I'll share my new toy, just let me play with it for awhile then I'll share it). These people have run up our point totals and stolen our money! It's not just the people who didn't get in to T1, it affects all of us in T1. And because of that, they should be permanently banned, and I don't give two shits about their bitching and moaning, because they knew what they were doing alright. Trust me.

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    • Bullshit that they were going to do it for our benefit I meant

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    • I agree the accounts should be banned completely, but at an absolute minimum they should be banned thru the next PVP whenever that is. That way we don't have to face their cheated cards and they don't get to increase rank in prep for coming raids.

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    • Patorikku927 this is the Y2k page not Jerry's site

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    • PRAXISZ wrote:
      In a competitive game such as this that requires so much from a player, permanent bans for these accounts should be issued without question. I am personally getting tired of competing event after event when players in the current top 100 are still using cheats and nothing seems to be done about it. I am glad that the XBOX One will be released soon.

      We all need to be pissed off at this point.  We could invest our money anywhere we want but some of us have chosen this game.  If enough of those letters like ARO wrote above get to Mobage they should realize it, but let's not assume they will.  They see this wiki as well, we all feel the same way and there are allot of people that read this stuff.......  we're doing the right thing by voicing our opinions here.   

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    • Willard1976 wrote:
      Patorikku927 this is the Y2k page not Jerry's site

      I know that Will, but I looked up a different site and made those conclusions.  not the ones you posted above.

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    • Wow, interesting reading for sure, and there's not too much I can say that hasn't been said already. Thanks guys for bringing this here. Unless these accounts are permanently banned, I have serious reservations about ever dropping another cent in this game. How these guys get off with just a week suspension is mind boggling!

      I always love the when cheaters say they were doing it for the greater good.... What a crock. Props to Runamok for taking a stand.

      I agree with Prax. 2 weeks until my Xbox one is here ;)

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    • They should be banned for life, no excuses. I feel sick I shared a common goal with these dudes at one time. Oh well, I still stand on my original opinion on the original matter, but these douche bags need to be banned for life.

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    • You know, this is really sticking in my craw. I think what Mobage is really teaching me here is that it's ok to cheat. I don't like campaign events anyways. You're telling me I could've cheated my way to Ghost Starscream for pennies on the dollar, and then gotten a week's vacation from an event I didn't care about in the first place?!? That's seriously my punishment?

      Yeah, if you need me I'll be over in SWFC thank you very much. Thank you Mobage for taking a bad situation and then making it a hundred times worse.

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    • HypnoCT wrote:
      You know, this is really sticking in my craw. I think what Mobage is really teaching me here is that it's ok to cheat. I don't like campaign events anyways. You're telling me I could've cheated my way to Ghost Starscream for pennies on the dollar, and then gotten a week's vacation from an event I didn't care about in the first place?!? That's seriously my punishment?

      Yeah, if you need me I'll be over in SWFC thank you very much. Thank you Mobage for taking a bad situation and then making it a hundred times worse.

      I agree Hypno. Banning consistent Boss/raid T1 players from playing  a campaign event is not really any punishment to them at all. Most of us just farm these events as the sub par  T1 reward/cost is just not worth it to us. I wondered why in the hell it had to cost me 1200+ BC's to T1 in Ghost in the Machine when I have always (including One Shall Fall) done it below 1000. I'd say all us who T1'ed that event without cheating deserve some BC compensation but that will never happen.

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    • Keep writing to mobage - the squeakier the wheel, the more that gets oiled.

      And yeah; ban those f*ckers.

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    • This is the email I just sent to Mobage. If you haven't already, please get on it!

      To whom it may concern:

      As a thirteen time top tier player and "big spender" in Transformers: Legends - I'm pretty sure I'm $2000 deep at least with you - I have to say your response to the item hacking antics of DarthJerry et al. is woefully inadequate.

      Months ago, you banned my teammate Itsme5712's account after users - including DarthJerry - petitioned you to after they discovered she'd bought coins through a discount site that required her to give them her password (and thus violate your TOS). Your ban was swift and merciless, and I am not faulting you for this action; in fact, I advised her (after the petition against her went public) that what she did would likely lead to her account being banned.

      DarthJerry and others have openly discussed on Facebook their intention to "screw Mobage" using their hack (involving accessing bridges simultaneously on multiple devices, which, by the way, is now public knowledge despite your stated desire to not discuss it; I have known about it for some time and gave information to you via a teammate who has a contact with you) and to proliferate the knowledge of the hack to their team at some time.

      This link http://transformers-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:42970 contains screenshots from DarthJerry's Facebook page where he admits to intending to "screw Mobage" via this cheat, and the feelings of a number of TFL players.

      What these people did and intended to do is far more destructive to the game than Itsme's singular (though large) purchase of discounted Cybercash, and she did not have the intent of screwing you with her actions. Your choice to suspend these people for a WEEK is a joke compared to Itsme's banning and sends a message to players that blatant cheating will now be responded to with a slap on the wrist. They cheated other players of money and game resources in order to keep up with their cheating! A number of high- and moderate-spending players, including myself, have lost faith in your ability to run a fair game, and feel uncertain as to whether or not we will continue spending or even playing TFL. (You must realize you are losing players to Star Wars Force Collection!!!)

      Banning any and all individuals who utilized this exploit is the only way to restore your players' faith in the fairness of your game and your company. TFL isn't the only game on my radar, and not the only game I could spend money on. I could pay Wizards of the Coast around $50/year for their amazing Magic iPad game; instead, I've sunk a huge wad of cash into a simplistic card game because I love the Transformers franchise and the camaraderie I share with my teammates in the game and in our chat room. However, I cannot continue to justify this if I have to continue playing against known cheaters whose decks are of a higher power level due to their cheating.

      If you do not ban this group of players, you will lose many other players - honest players who spend hard-earned money in the quest for fair competition in a game based on a franchise dear to their hearts. Do you really want to be seen as encouraging cheaters, or encouraging fair play?

      The choice is yours, Mobage.

      Thank you.

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    • If I may give a new player perspective.....

      First, man... I didn't log in for one night and I got this story.... Was wondering what the banning by Mobage about..... I was just about to leave TFL after my 4th event which is End of the Road since I feel that this game is just a rip off (or maybe because I'm not a gamer, hence, I never feel that need for spending much on a game). Then I decide to give it another shot since I love the art on the cards by browsing on how to play TFL (again not a gamer so I never really put any effort into playing any games before by looking at more information about it) and I stumble into this wiki. What do u know everyone is friendly and actually helped me for my first t2.

      Now.... reading at this case I feel lucky that the website that I decide to click when I googled how to play TFL was this wiki, where I could've gone to other website and meet people that are so ignorant that they would never think about how their action could've affect other people -spending more for t1 and t2 or even t3 maybe, than they should, etc.

      I feel sad for those people that they would spend their precious time in their live to hate something and look for ways to screw it (if that is the reason why they actually do it. though again if they really do it for everyone they would just post it everywhere and let everyone compete with the same cheating capability that they have - not saying that cheating is ok, I'm just saying that everyone should compete at the same level). If they feel that Mobage is screwing them, then they should have just left TFL like what i almost did (until i found this wiki)

      My only concern now is that some people would move to SWFC, which i must say i'm tempted to but can't afford the time to play 2 games at once.....

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    • Just seen these on fb page
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    • Screenshot by 11165765 - Facebook Post by Runamuk Prime - Message from Alex about Hacking of Client-Side JSON
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    • just speculating, but the group most likely consists of recent T1ers who gave themselves a pat on the back following the end of the event, and now have clammed up. have a look at various forums post-event and you'll see what i mean. 

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    • SonnyCiccone wrote:
      Have a look at their answer about the 1 week suspension 
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    • Help74 wrote:
      just speculating, but the group most likely consists of recent T1ers who gave themselves a pat on the back following the end of the event, and now have clammed up. have a look at various forums post-event and you'll see what i mean. 


      Not all recent T1ers in that event are cheaters. I for a fact didn't cheat, spent 200+ dollars on that event and am not banned and am currently jumping around the 8000's while farming. I just have nothing to say on the situation.

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    • Perpetrators aprehended should be at once disarmed swiftly & put aside for the harm that they have caused to the greater society. If you cant take away the R5s that they have gained complicitly, then a perma ban will only be in good order.

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    • Suppose that Alex is a woman, right? And very pretty and dresses like a femme fatal. Then one day she walks down the street and suddenly she run into a man who wants to  rape her.

      When she realizes her mistake, she says:

      - Oh well it's my fault!!, I know that I'm very pretty and I know that I shouldn't be dressing like, that so provocatively, so please, be kind. It's my first time that I will be raped

      The man then say:

      - Oh is also my first rape!

      - Oh well in that case I will not inform the police, I'll just be a little mad to you.

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    • Haha! Thats wicked,man.Now, if we may just report your little scenario to the autorities.

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    • Woman : But you are always welcome to screw me again!!!

      Lol

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    • If they are going to hold to this one-week suspension - mercy? Dan is right, no mercy for Itsme! - then I am done spending money on this game. I will not continue to compete in an environment where cheating is encouraged.

      "OMG you gave someone your password so they can buy coins for you cheaply but in such a way that we still got paid fairly? You are a scourge that must be eliminated!"

      "Oh, you hacked our code to intentionally defraud us and thousands of players? See ya in a week! And keep all your ill-gotten gains!"

      Seriously, I'm voting with my dollars. Ban these people, and I will be back. If the time off stands, I'm done with Mobage for real. I've had it with this.

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    • Mobage's "mercy" is extremely unsettling. A slap on the wrist will encourage more cheaters to arise. T1 players should seriously consider their future T1 attempts and cease spending as it will probably be infiltrated by cheaters. 

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    • Ok, now talking seriously Alex,  


      Tell us how come Mobage banned Itsme5712 for passing her ID name and password to a third party company, banned the guy who had discovered a duplication bug and made a deck with 9 UR5 BumbleBees*. And when you discovered a team who deliberately were hacking the app, you give them a week off!!!!!


      Let me remind you what it saids in the TOS:


      General Prohibitions

      You agree not to do any of the following while using our Services, ngmoco Content, or User Content:


      Use cheats, exploits, hacks, bots, mods or third party software designed to gain an advantage, perceived or actual, over other Members, or modify or interfere with the Service;


      Abuse or exploit a bug, glitch or mechanism in the Service; 


      ngmoco will have the right to investigate and prosecute violations of any of the above, including Intellectual Property Rights infringement and Services security issues, to the fullest extent of the law. ngmoco may involve and cooperate with law enforcement authorities in prosecuting users who violate these Terms.




      How is possible that a group of players who created a facebook page to boycott Mobage had so many privileges, I remember you, that you already showed bias to them when you announced the ban to itsme first in their page, and they pay you back like this!!! A month ago you called them terrorists!*


      Do you really fear their boycottt effect? But even they don't follow the boycott (unless they already been cheating in September) or what was the problem? they filled your inbox email with their bitching? we have to do the same to get your atention? 


      We know you lurk this pages but you never contact us, perhaps our big spenders aren't big enough for you. Here in the TFL-WIKI site comes more than a quarter of the T1 players of the most dificult event, the raidboss events, more if you consider that there is cheaters placing in the first tier, 3 players from here won 7 events, from here is the most winning team that this game ever had so far, this are just undeniable facts.


      So tell us what do you need to you come down here to talk to us, threaten with a massive boycott? we don't do that we just will left this game and move on to anothers, one by one when everyone at their own pace gets sick of your indifference.


      Unless you want to us come to you. Ok I have no problem. I will post this in the Mobage's facebook page.


      And here the "letter" you sent to our beloved Russellfooled:


      Hey Russell,


      I must have missed the first message.


      To address the points you have brought up, the deck containing maxed out r5 Bumble Bee cards belonged to a player who had discovered a duplication bug. This bug has since been fixed, and this account has been removed from the competition.


      I understand that you don't approve of the PVP event structure, but the TFL Team intends to improve upon this system until it is perfected. I would also ask you to consider that while you represent an incredibly knowledgable, skilled and dedicated portion of our player base, you couldn't possibly represent the hundreds of thousands of people playing TFL. Can we at agree on that? A lot of people enjoy the PVP event, and so while I can agree that it needs a lot of work, I can't agree that it should be abandoned in favor of old content.


      This kind of leads me to your next point regarding the boycott. I want you to know that whether or not you decide to organize a boycott is entirely your perogative, but my thoughts on this matter are more centralized around observations I have made regarding your use of this tactic.


      When you first got involved with this idea it seemed as though you and your colleagues had a noble cause and good reason. I felt that while there was most likely a better way to approach the situation, it was nonetheless proactive and passionate.


      I have since seen this tactic become a tool that you guys are willing to abuse.


      The idea that you would organize and launch a boycott because the TFL Team decided to launch an event that you and your group do not prefer is incredibly selfish.


      I hate to say it, but to sum up my thoughts on the boycott given the way you have presented the idea,


      "We do not negotiate with terrorists."


      I hope this does not effect your opinion of me, as I am always trying tirelessly to advocate for the TFL community, but you asked me my thoughts on these points, and I always choose honesty.


      Kind Regards,


      Alex



      Ps skilled?? yeah skilled for cheat and very dedicated to that task!

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    • Jerry threatened you on Mobage's page, Willard. He should be banned any time now.

      Jerrysthreat
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    • I really hope more people than GOC and Willard are writing to Mobage about this matter. They never do anything unless a large number of people complain at the same time.

      Wether you are severely offended by these actions or not, it would still help your friends if you showed support I think.

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    • Hm this is a side-track, but from reading his posts, this DarthJerry character sounds a little mentally unstable, possibly in a Columbine way (if you get what I mean). For all our sakes, I'm glad TFL is a virtual game so none of us can come to physical harm from his hands, but he does seem to be a threat and a danger to his community and those around him, physically. Especially if he access to firearms, which since he appears to be in the US, is possible.

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    • Fortunately, Jerry lives in Hawaii, so he has little contact with the rest of the civilized world and is far away enough that all he can do is threaten us with violence should we come to Hawaii. LOLOLOL.

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    • CforKat wrote:
      I really hope more people than GOC and Willard are writing to Mobage about this matter. They never do anything unless a large number of people complain at the same time.

      Wether you are severely offended by these actions or not, it would still help your friends if you showed support I think.

      You are damn right CforKat. 

      So anyone who is interested in these matter click in the link above and unleash his/her thoughts 

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    • If enough high-spending T1 players sign on, we could do a "No spend November" and  hit Mobage where it hurts most - in their wallets. 

      This would not be a protest at their ripoff SBs, which is still and always a sore issue, but to show concern that a system with cheaters in it does not give high spenders any reassruance that their money would be well-spent.

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    • Well, I'm on board with this. I've been hammering the point home on Mobage's Facebook page as well (as has Willard). People should join us over there as well. Willard has a post on Mobage's wall that people should voice their displeasure on.

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    • I'm in. I haven't spent a dime I over the last 3 weeks. Maybe it is time to escalate these things to google and apple. To force Mobage to make some changes. My only fear is that with all of Mobages posted admissions of it being their fault the game will get pulled from the App Store and people on IOS will lose their decks and all of the time, money and effort they have put into the game.

      Also DJ is full of it. He is trying to cover his butt in his communtiy but an entire deck Megatrons and 1st place through all of September. He had this going on the . And I know of a former player that had theorized this could be done before September when some big changes were made to the code. Don't know if that person ever figured it out but they had told me about code being left unlocked that Mobage should not have allows on device access to.

      I strongly feel this happened during the Optimus event. The most expensive event for any top player. Anyone that T1 that event should be upset. These guys inflated the points on an already intense event and bumped people out of the top 100 that legitametley desserved to be there.

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    • I guess the moral of the story is, start hacking their code.  You'll only get a week suspension.

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    • 96.254.200.220 wrote: I guess the moral of the story is, start hacking their code.  You'll only get a week suspension.

      And this is the dangerous precedent they set when issuing such light punishment. Encourage the cheaters! Seems good, but I won't pay into that.

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    • My guess would be that Mobage did some math and determined it would be better to suspend the players than to ban them outright.  Figure that if they banned the accounts and people who were banned asked Apple for refunds (and we have seen that refunds are being handed out by Apple like candy on Halloween), they would get them.  If, say, 1000 people used the exploit and spent even $50 or $100 on the event, that would be a fair bit of cash to give up. 

      So, Mobage decides to hedge their bets and just suspend these players in an effort to protect profits.  It's all about the bottom line.  I doubt Mobage will ban the accounts, and even if they did, I doubt it would be all of them, just the top X accounts that benefited from the exploit.

      So, if you do find a hack, you don't use it just yourself, you have to spread it around to lots of people, then you just get suspended.  If you're a lone wolf you get banned.

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    • I sent this email on Friday to mobage. no response yet....

      I am a paying player and frequent t1 player. I pay to play, I pay alot to play. The cheaters have run up the score of t1 and that has cost me money. I could not break into the top 100 of 'one shall fall' due to the points race. I have t1s victories recently for omega supreme, metroplex, hound, motormaster and starcream, all of which I had to spend more money and more cubes than ever before due to the cheaters. CHEATING gave them UNFAIR advantage over many episodes, and you apparently think it is adequate to ban them for only A WEEK! RIDICULOUS! They should be banned FOREVER! Did you read that, FOREVER! They cheated, they knew they were cheating. They even state on their website they were cheating to screw mobage! and u are going to let them keep playing? In addition, for the next PVP, I will have to face their cheated cards costing me more money to beat CHEATERS again, and cost more cubes and that is NOT FAIR GAMEPLAY! You must at an absolute minimum ban them thru the next PVP so I and the other fair players will not have to face their cheated cards and they will not be able to rank up for the next raid event! As a company, you would show much more backbone to your player base by proper punishment. We would respect you more for standing up for a FAIR GAME! If your only solution for such overt cheating is a week ban, you had better get ready for much more in the future as well as a loss of your player base, including ME! Please consider futher measures to correct this injustice! Thanks-Broadman312

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    • Willard1976
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    • Willard1976 wrote:
      Syclone1217 wrote:
      My guess would be that Mobage did some math and determined it would be better to suspend the players than to ban them outright.  Figure that if they banned the accounts and people who were banned asked Apple for refunds (and we have seen that refunds are being handed out by Apple like candy on Halloween), they would get them.  If, say, 1000 people used the exploit and spent even $50 or $100 on the event, that would be a fair bit of cash to give up. 

      So, Mobage decides to hedge their bets and just suspend these players in an effort to protect profits.  It's all about the bottom line.  I doubt Mobage will ban the accounts, and even if they did, I doubt it would be all of them, just the top X accounts that benefited from the exploit.

      So, if you do find a hack, you don't use it just yourself, you have to spread it around to lots of people, then you just get suspended.  If you're a lone wolf you get banned.

      I disagree Sy

      As Mobage has to watch is the amount of players that are going to demand a refund from Google / Apple if they do not they ban the cheaters, because no honest player will want to compete as a disadvantage, and as Mobage not properly punished cheaters these players have every right to compensation


      If jerry aims to compare with Wardeal and demand to be compensated for Google / Apple being himself  caught for hacking a product protected by laws of private property laws and commercial laws, of a private company that in theirs owns terms of use  prohibits such actions, the will not only be demonstrating how wrong he is if not also how stupid he is!


      Wardeal had a honest reason to ask for been refunded, jerry doesn't. 


      and also added that Mobage has a duty to adhere to they rules and act accordingly to these terms. They fulfilled their duty to inform players about their rules and punishments that correspond with their violation. Now they have a duty to enforce they own rules, and we as the other part of this imposed contract  is our duty to demand and observe  that contract will be fulfilled 

      The post deleted was mine, sorry about that, double post! 

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    • After reading everything here, I think that all of us who have spent money on the game have the right to petition Google/Apple for a full refund for ALL money spent on the game for a breach in contract by the designers/Mobage.  We that have conformed to the terms of service have been caused harm in the form of monetary and emotional distress due to the actions of others and the company known as mobage for not acting justly within their OWN terms.  If they are not willing to conform to their own published terms of service, then any contract for purchasing anything from them should be null and void.  I say that we should spend out this event and then contact them for the full refund and keep the purchases.

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    • AndRollOut wrote: If enough high-spending T1 players sign on, we could do a "No spend November" and  hit Mobage where it hurts most - in their wallets. 

      This would not be a protest at their ripoff SBs, which is still and always a sore issue, but to show concern that a system with cheaters in it does not give high spenders any reassruance that their money would be well-spent.

      I am already doing no spending since cutting up my credit cards. Plus I have been farming so far. I am on board with it.

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    • Hey guys,

      Got a reply from Mobage after sending my email (posted above a couple days ago) that asked for compensation on almost-T1ers as well as a permaban on the cheaters. The summary of the reply (you can read the full below) seems to be:

      - No, no compensation for past events as it's "quite difficult" to investigate. Wth?! For the same amount that some of the T1ers pay, hotels and casinos have been known to roll out the red carpet treatment and accede to weird/unconventional requests without considering them "quite difficult". 

      - Sounds like they are re-considering the suspension length. I hope they are considering extending it from "one week" to "forever". =p

      - Mobage will not reveal the identities of the cheaters, though this is a slightly moot point since their identities have been revealed anyway. In any case, based on my own understanding of the law, if you really wanted to sue the cheaters for tort damages, you could subpoena Mobage to reveal the cheaters to you so you would know who to sue. But that's for anyone who wants to take it that far. 


      My own view is, I will not be spending until I'm satisfied the game is fair again, and seen fairly convincing proof of this. That way, even if I lose and get edged out of T1 in future, at least I've spent no money on that failure.


      ==============

      Hey there,

      I appreciate your feedback in regards to the current state of Transformers Legends. Performing a full investigation in regards to previous events could prove to be quite difficult due to attempting to verify the validity of each player's claim to their placement in such events. Our current focus is on improving future events so that issues like this will not be repeated.

      We are unable to release any personal information in regards to those players accounts due to privacy concerns.

      The team has also received a lot of feedback in regards to the suspension length and I will also forward your feedback on to the team so that they can consider it for further action.

      Please let me know if you need anything else.

      Thanks,


      Patrick

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    • I'm hoping to receive a similar statement soon for my letter sent Saturday morning.

      I don't expect them to compensate people for missing T1, as there are a lot of variables to work with there. Also, how do you determine how many people deserve compensation? Let's say they expand it to the top 105... Then #106 will have a reasonable complaint.

      That they are at least reconsidering the suspension length does bring some hope.

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    • Well a few of us T1ers that week were/are allies with the guy who tried to make top 100 and ended 101. I' think he deserves one of the cheaters T1 spots if he played a fair game.

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    • KUB4$K!E wrote:

      AndRollOut wrote: If enough high-spending T1 players sign on, we could do a "No spend November" and  hit Mobage where it hurts most - in their wallets. 

      This would not be a protest at their ripoff SBs, which is still and always a sore issue, but to show concern that a system with cheaters in it does not give high spenders any reassruance that their money would be well-spent.

      I am already doing no spending since cutting up my credit cards. Plus I have been farming so far. I am on board with it.

      I already started too, I am not spending any more money on this game. I used my remaining coins this episode. I haven't even got past medium bosses this time round lol.

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    • Leslie Keeping (Mobage)

      Nov 10 10:36 am (PST)

      Hello there,

      The decision was made by the development team of Transformers Legends, it is not up to our support here at Mobage. I apologize for the trouble this may have caused.

      Thank you for contacting Mobage support.

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    • Well there's a slap in the face response to my email. No mention of any changes in penalty. No acknowledgment of anything. Does anyone know a complaint link to  google play?

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    • I finished 117 in the last event and missed T1 by a couple million points. Had I known there were cheaters in the episode I would not have committed to T1 or spend a dime. I am contacting mobage to request a full refund or the T1 rewards. I will be fine with either. After I get the response I expect from mobage, I will contact Apple. Either way, I WILL get compensation.

      I will report back.

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    • https://support.google.com/googleplay/?hl=en#

      there is a contact us button I guess you would go through there.

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    • If anyone knows the email address for Mobage , Apple, Android, please post. If not I will once I have time to look it up. They don't exactly make it easy to find.

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    • thx kyzaa.  pressing on...

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    • https://support.mobage.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

      https://support.google.com/googleplay/?hl=en#

      Not sure of the direct link for Apple as they seem to make it so confusing to attempt to find any support although i do know that once you do there support is great lol.

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    • Thanks Kyzza. This info should be at the top of the Pissed and Venting Area.

      Amiright??

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    • Godofcyanide wrote:
      I'm hoping to receive a similar statement soon for my letter sent Saturday morning.

      I don't expect them to compensate people for missing T1, as there are a lot of variables to work with there. Also, how do you determine how many people deserve compensation? Let's say they expand it to the top 105... Then #106 will have a reasonable complaint.

      That they are at least reconsidering the suspension length does bring some hope.


      Mobage knows who cheated.  They know where everybody finished.  It wouldn't be a stretch to re-calculate final standings of events by deleting those entries that are know cheaters.  They don't need to expand the top 100 to 110 or 1xx.  The adjusted standings should be rewarded properly.

      It gets even fuzzier when you take into account the luck on the spacebridge.  Considering that it should be "random", the cheater than may have used rubies on the SB could have taken the randomly generated card that the next person in line needed.

      Just like horse races where the winner may be disqualified and the remaining racers move up a notch, Mobage should be looking at compensating those that got screwed.  Image the guy who finished 101, now knowing full well he got screwed.  I'd be wanting my just rewards (well, that is provided he/she didn't cheat too! :-))

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    • Optimus420xx wrote: Thanks Kyzza. This info should be at the top of the Pissed and Venting Area.

      Amiright??

      Good point. I'll see what I can do about that. ;)

      Edit: How's this for service? http://transformers-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:43327

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    • Hello all, what's up guys? Been farming, logging on every 2 hours, using the free energon and convert it to BC.  POS 2,800 or something at the moment.  Been to all level;, Hard L10 used 4 BC, L9 used 2 and L8 used 1 to get the boss so i think I'll farm at Hard L8.  Used up all my chains from previous events and have none left.  Got 1 full evo jazz.  I wish I can get Skywarp and Ironhide but I am not buying any chains so fat chance on that.

      Seen the TFL blog about the cheating by some guys and been reading this Wiki page as well as the facebook page for some explanation. It makes me angry because on the last event it cost me a lot to get to T1 in terms of time and money and at the last minute I almost didn't make it. I didn't have Brainstorm so have been relying on cube usage. Whilst I was doing that this guys have an unfair advantage gained through illegal means.

      The punishment handed down was also not a punishment in my opinion. There is no consistency. If one is banned breaking the rules albeit she unaware of it, how come the other one is not banned with same offence category whilst their motive is to actually defraud / destroy Mobage? Their offence is actually more severe than the other case.

      I love playing this game even though it causes me a lot of grief (from the wife and kids, I mean she says I spend more time in this game than with her which is true on Thursday and Tuesday during boss events), time and Mobacoins but I don't know if I would like to compete again knowing that the playing field is not even. I would not put in any money (£££) and time going for T1 knowing that maybe there are a few guys that cheats their way into the same place. I mean if I landed in POS 101 on the last event (Starscream Ghost), I wouldn't be too happy after learning that the cheats stole my place in T1.

      At the very least Mobage should name those guys that they banned / suspended (like they did with Itsme5712 on the facebook page) so that we can then choose whether to play with them or not and for Mobage to at least be consistent with their punishment policy. Also they should fix this anomaly, fully test the product before releasing it to us to play.

      On this current campaign episode I admit I went to the spce bridge to replenish my BC but i used all my leftover mobacoins. I din't get any new mobacoins. I wouldn not be going to the space bridge until Mobage do the right thing: Consistent punishment policy and fix the hack.

      So it looks like I'll be a free to play player until such time confidence is returned to the game that we are all in the same playing field.

      This is just my take on the matter.

      »GoC fixed formatting.« :)

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    • Godofcyanide wrote:

      Optimus420xx wrote: Thanks Kyzza. This info should be at the top of the Pissed and Venting Area.

      Amiright??

      Good point. I'll see what I can do about that. ;)

      Edit: How's this for service? http://transformers-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:43327

      Excellent. GOC = 1/2 Man and 1/2 Legend.

      I'm new to the wiki community but have followed the forums in the shadows since spring of this year. I've spent well over 1k on this game and shared everyone's frustration from the tiered space bridge to the controversial Itsme banning.

      There are many voiceless players, as I once was, that look to this forum for leadership and action to take on these issues. The responses from Mobage, Apple, etc will help everyone reading reach their definition of compensation or justice. Everyone, please continue to post your responses from mobage, etc. positive or negative on this topic. I know it has helped me tremendously. So thank you all.

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    • According to Facebook posts, someone from Mobage claims that less that 20 people were using this exploit, so 20% of the T1 players (if all 20 placed T1) cheated.  Mobage  looks at this as "minuscule" in the grand scheme of the number of players, conveniently disregarding the 20% figure.

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    • Hey Guys..  I'm just getting on the wiki and reading everything..  I do fully intend on writing a complaint of my own, but I worry about whether our messages are making it into the right hands..  The last time I complained about something that wasn't tech support related, I got the support team basically telling me to post on the feedback page.. 

      Where's the best place to bitch?  Feedback page for everyone to see, or the support page and potentially have the complaint go nowhere?

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    • Actually, Alex said it is a number less than the number of fingers you have.

      Still doesn't change that they cheated, nor that they should be banned for what they did.

      He also claims they are considering taking care of people who missed T1 due to cheating players (in the same post where he said it was less than ten players).

      Screenshot by 9890645 - Facebook - Mobage Reply Regarding Compensation for Exploit
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    • I only followed half of this thread before it got quote a bit repetitive. But I'll throw in my $.02 from the perspective of a free to play player who never has a shot at T1 anyone. I'm also lawyer so I figured I would weigh in on some of the arguments I read that Mobage could be held accountable for allowing cheaters to remain in the game.

      First, I think it is really awful that the game can be exploited by some players at the expense of others. But even if a player's account was suspended, couldn't they just create a new account with a different device? Yeah, they start from scratch, but if they are willing to use exploits, that won't set em back long.

      The issue of the appropriate punishment should be secondary to the more important question of why is it so easy to exploit this game? I cannot understand why any rational actor would spend anything more than nominal amounts of money on a game that : 1) can be exploited apparently easily; and 2) sells items of temporary value (as they introduce more powerful cards earlier cards lose their values entirely).

      I've said it before, adults can spend their money however they want to, but it is alarming that people are spending the kinds of $$$$ they are dropping on this game with little to show for it. I play for free and get almost the identical experience as the players that drop hundreds each week.

      As for the legal issues. There really are none. Mobage owes us no duties beyond providing the items they sell us. If you pay for chains, they need to give you chains, etc.. Players who choose to get caught up in the arms race dynamic of the game do so voluntarily. Also, Mobage is not a government actor, so they need not give rational and even punishments for similar offenses. Even if they had that obligation, the only people that would have a claim are the people who allegedly received the stiffer penalty.

      Aside from the legal issue, it would be a class act for Mobage to calculate the number of people it caught cheating in T1 and give (assume for example they identify 3 cheaters) the same number of people who missed T1 as a result, the T1 reward. It would cost Mobage nothing, but show good faith.

      All that being said, players who are tired of this or other b.s. can always quit the game. I enjoy a.. Of you here, but quitting is probably a good idea for anyone spending 100s per week on the game who don't have huge trust funds and no financial worries.

      Thanks for indulging my perspective. ~DoctorCrosby

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    • Would it be more than 6? ;)

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    • @ GLC - Alex from Mobage seems desirous of us to communicate with him via Facebook. ;)

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    • @ DoctorCrosby - good rational post.

      Personally I'm quite disappointed that some fellow players will go to so much trouble to screw  Mobage and in the process create all this mayhem around a game - a game - that we all play to enjoy ourselves and create new friendships. I understand the betrayal that many players feel, as I feel the same. Betrayal both from the cheaters and - to a certain extend - Mobage.

      At the same time, Mobage should get a better control over a product that bring lots of $$$ in their pockets - it seems simply too easy to exploit TFL, and it ain't the first time it happens. As well, they should deal with cheaters in a more serious fashion. A simple slap on the wrist is an invitation for hackers to mess with the game even more.

      I don't deal with companies or business partners that I can't trust - and I have the same attitude towards my entertainment. Therefore I'll be, from now on, a pure free player, enjoy the artwork and casual play and be happy with T2 or T3. I'm onboard with the no spend November... and December... etc...

      My 0.02$ from T2 ...

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    • My weekend has been apeshit, so I haven't had a chance to write yet. Hopefully I'll get to it tomorrow. But the bottom line is, I'm done unless they ban these jackasses. I have the feeling Mobage will lose a lot more money from most of the other t1 players than worrying about keeping a handful of cheaters. This entire situation is simply inexcusable.

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    • Alex's first contact in public with others than the clowns


      Mobage Hey guys,

      The first thing I want to say is that, when things like this rise up, please just come here and talk to me first. 

      There are so many misconceptions about this entire situation, and I would bet they are there because a few people have been purposing their speculations as facts, when they don't actually know what happened.

      First off, Itsme's situation is a little different. The provider she was using was only able to offer their services because they used a data block of stolen credit cards to make those purchases. We have taken massive steps to have this fraudulent service eradicated, but we had to send an incredibly strong message regarding this issue.

      You cannot steal John Doe's credit card to get ahead in TFL. There is no wiggle room on that.

      Second of all, people are tossing around the idea that hundreds of thousands of players were using this exploit, and thus bumping everybody out of ranking positions.

      The reality is that less than twenty people were using this exploit. I'll look into having players who were bumped out of rank compensated for this, but it's not going to be a huge number of people who were bumped out.

      I'm not sure why there is so much animosity over me not coming over and talking to you guys on your particular page. This Mobage page is where community leaders come to speak with me, and I can't just go around putting my nose in everybody else's business. A surprise appearance on a community page here and there might be nice, but I specifically don't post or engage on outside community hubs because it would be unfair to others.

      If you guys wan't my representation, just send your top reps over to me, and we will be well upon our way.

      I'm super busy today, so my responses may be a bit sparse, but let's talk about this.

      I'm sure we can clear the air here.

      Roll out,

      Alex

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    • Can we just write a petition to Mobage with players active in this forum along with their current status (T1 or T2) so that Mobage can see how much this wiki actually represent TFL players?

      PS: I'm not sure about writing to Mobage as I'm afraid my bad english will be misunderstood by them -_-

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    • i would like to share a few thoughts to our players and members of this Community ...

      as it would shed some light from my personal experience of playing TFL from months of July, August, and September (even though i may have installed the app in may or june or whatever)


      my original account got banned "during" the "One Shall Fall" Event ... pretty much after the first 24 -30 hrs or so of the event ...

      ofc this had happened "after" i had spent like $1200 to get coins in the game .... and my only disgrunt from that event was .... it took me over $500 in the space bridge tier loop to "Finally" get 1 Megatron Alt ....

      after being hit with a suspension ... i submitted into Mobage of receipts that i have made throughout my game play ... and pleaded that i was a victim ...

      on a technicality ... they gave me a permanent banned because i violated their ToS ...

      To Prove to them and to my fellow TFL players ...

      that i don't need "discount coins" to play and compete for T1 ...

      i decided to start over from complete Scratch with a brand new account .... and learned from my mistake and this time made ALL of my coins purchases in app ....

      The S.O.S. Dinobots Event .... it cost me $960 to win that Event .... (proof of receipts)

      i made a harmless youtube video to share my journey .... not as a form of arrogrance that i am better than anybody ....

      but, more of a illustrations of what it took to get from rank 1000 to top 100, to top 10, and to beat out 2nd rank .... *It simply took Time and Money to do it ...

      AND ... i started 2 days later than everyone who jumped out on Launch Day ....

      My Biggest Reward other than 5 MTM Grimmie's .... (with still 6 Alts left - lol)

      was ... Mo still allowed me to play even though they took away my original account ...

      i felt at this point in the game - there was no need for me to prove anything else to myself or to anybody else in the game or from the creators of the game ...


      In Omega Corps - i spent $1200 (more than $200 in the weapons tier bridge trying to get Grimmie's weapon) i was not successful until after the event was over ... (ofc got all the receipts for proof of in app purchases)

      this is my thoughts of the whole Omega Corps PvP Event and where i was very displease ...

      i started 3 days late ... as i was not planning on playing it ... i decided to play because i was told that my deck would easily placed in the top 250 .... easy R5 Omega Supreme reward ...

      so, i started on Saturday .... by Monday i was already in 2nd rank behind Sparks 7664 player ... (or whatever it was) ....

      what made me pissed was .... i spent thru 2,000 battle cubes  and was about to take over 1st rank ....   on that monday morning to early afternoon (took me literally 6+ hours to catch him-- i have screen shots of proof) .....  and guess what happens ... Mo releases an update that removed or reduce the critical Damage ... which open the doors for many players to have good and long streaks .... i literally had like 5-6 players blew passed me instantly with just 1 hr ..... i dropped down to 5th or 6th ... ofc they did this .... it would boost increase of battle cubes sales ....  so basically every top 100 players who spent over 500 bc in the first 5 days got screwed .... (me and perhaps Sparks especially) .... this allows Jerry to have God like Streaks as his Deck was Top Notch .... with 3 Grimmie Weapons ...... his Glorious 152 Win Streak was very impressive .... he just basically just had to pick a player and skip the battle ...

      i decided that i would spend to get another 1,000 battle cubes to at least hit over the 10M points mark ... i too went on a good win streak and timed out at 112 Wins ...

      and was very much happy to Finished 2nd due to the fact i had to beat out 2 other players for it in the last 90 mins of the event ... so, yeah -- Omega Corps event i burned through 3,000 bc


      and now for the Biggest Event - The Colossal War ...

      the whole jerry vs itsme fiasco ...

      this event cost me over $1900 .... (cost me $290 at the tier loop space bridge to get Trypticon MTM -- was happy as hell too) ... heard others spent way more on that to even get him ... while few got an ALT from Medals Cracks ...

      Only about 4 other players knew what i was experiencing in this event ...

      and i will shed some light here for all players and members to know ....

      i had issues of not being able to purchase any coins from Friday 2pm pst until Sunday 6pm pst

      when was the last time any of you players see me go through 3 days without being able to play and earn very little points ....  i had to wait and play from free refills ...

      this was what i was facing throughout all 3 of my Events in September ....

      i had issues of being able to purchase coin in app ....

      i had to go through apple support to have them fix this issue for me ...

      as they were telling me that initially it was their fault because of maintenance on their servers ...

      (this happened during the S.O.S Event) ...

      but, i had purchasing issues even after that ...

      they later write me that it was on Mo ends of why i was being limited to only $99 purchase per day ...

      i message a few of my allies and shared to them that i perhaps was the only Paid Player that Mo must not want Money from .... hahaha ..... why they make it so hard for me to purchase Coins ...

      i later found out some other players had difficulties to purchase coins also but from Android

      whether Jerry was using these exploits or not during Colossal War -- i don't really care ...

      we get the same R5 Metroplex Card Reward ....

      i'm just sharing to all the players of this community that it cost me over $1900 in that event to place 2nd ....

      i have no regrets .... because i burned through 8,000 BC in that event ... and i helped every single player on my ally list from sunday Evening until the last hour of the event ...

      the only questions remains in back of my mind is "if" i didn't sat from friday to sunday ... would Jerry still would have Won???

      i decided to take a break from the game ... because i played for 3 months straight ...

      and my arm has just about to fallen off with countless hours of tapping on my iphone screen ...

      8 days later i landed over at SWFC ...

      To Clarify to everyone else .... No, I'm not currently Banned or Suspended with War-Flower

      (unless ofc Mo is in the Business to banned players like me who spends over 8,000 into their TFL account)

      i simply have not even logged on Since the End of Colossal War ...

      i have not even received or collected my $1900 Metroplex -- lol

      i have not returned simply because i only played in 3 events and both my Robot/Weapons base are FULL ...

      200/100 is simply not enough .... i praise all those who's been sticking around since the beginning and have max level of 999 .... i do share your pain!!!

      Truth is i'm running into the same problems with SWFC ... my binder of 200 is Always Full now ...

      i think these companies simply were not prepared to cater to such Players like me ...

      and again i remind them that it is an insult to every Paid player when we have to sell/junk/fodder our Paid Rare or Collector Cards into the credit Dispenser to make room for new and competitive cards ...

      i almost almost came back into the "Call of the Primitives" Event ...

      until i calculated out how the 8x at the Time MTM Bee Deck was accomplished after 1 day of playing ....

      i heard "of" the exploit even before then ....

      but, that event purely proved that it exists and i am rather happy that i stayed away and just spent the money instead into SWFC ....

      i am still passionate about the game in terms of the allies and friends whom i met ...

      it's we player who stick together in any game that helps us pass the time in our everyday life ...


      i enjoy my time in SWFC mainly because it is drama free ...


      i don't go to other players and tell them how to spend their money or how to live their life or how to play the game ...

      so, TFL or SWFC ... they are my Entertainment .... i'm allowed to spend as much time or money how i see fit to enjoy it ....

      i live in a town where many tourists, stars, actors, athletes, CEO, etc that easily can spend this kind of money in just a few days ...

      i wish Mo the best in making good judgements and sound decisions to upkeep the harmony of their players whether they are paid players or free players .... it matters not ...

      YOU have to cater to everyone who has this app install on their phone or device ...

      and ofc reward those who suffered or got cheated out of a potential ranking that they would have earned or won ....


      Love everyone here ... (even Zacher) ... lol ... hehe ...

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    • The message before Itsme's post was the same post without her log in, so double post, out

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    • Way to troll/antagonize/provoke that guy Will, real mature. What are you a TFL junior deputy?  

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    • @Itsme, it's nice to see you here again. We really missed you. Do drop by now and then. Sadly, I have to let you know that war-flower is also banned (at least that is how it looks like) :(  Now, we have the possibility to see someone's deck. When going to war-flower, it will only show 1 card (the leader card) and ??? to the deck power. And that is a clear sign that the account is banned. Sorry for the bad news

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    • Sonny, you didn't even read all of Itsme's post, did you? She said she hasn't logged in since the end of Colossal War. Accounts that don't show all cards and  / or ???? for DP mean they have either been abandoned or banned. But most of them simply haven't logged in since the event and are abandoned. There are not a lot of banned accounts in this game (even if there should be more). 

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    • @ A-malejko, I did read the whole post, but I did not know that the abandoned accounts will look just as a banned account. My bad.

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    • I have no problem not spending any money until they get this crap done right. Per above, compensating the 20 or so players who didn't make T1 is a step in the right direction. But we are still talking about how these 20 cheating individuals essentially made us waste our money.

      The way I see it , mobage has admitted that this is an exploit that was their fault for creating. Well then, kudos for them, they get to make us whole again for not properly protecting their players. My damages are therefore claimable to mobage; not darthjerry, and that is how I see why mobage should be compensating all of its players...

      To all the T1 ers who have played with the notion of not spending. Id happily join that lineup. It's you guys as well as all my allies here that make the game worth while. Without them, the game to me will be far less enjoyable, and simply not worth the time and effort.

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    • It's nice to use Google and find that page.

      Ok, let's talk simply.

      I'm Sly, Titekus, whatever man knows it or not, I'm the same one who showed many things broken in the Space Bridge.

      I like to see how many guys here and there are blaming and shouting about what happened and how they like to speculate about things they think happened but didn't.

      I like to see that some guys also like to post some private messages over here without asking myself if I'm ok for that or not. That's too any kind of irrespect.

      Many things have been said on my facebook's page (SlyTfl) about exploits and things that happened.

      You guys say that WE did T1 many times so we should be away from keeping it, so that Mobage would give it to anyone. I'm fine with it, really. The only problem is, I have NEVER been in any T1 reward with SlyTfl. I was only with Titekus for first time, in last event. (raid event with Ghost Starscream)

      You think that we are the only ones? As some say, there is still speculation here and there, but we (guys who are suspended and me banned) know that some who are still active have always been in T1 and were able to get any card in the space bridge with some exploits we have never known up to now. By the way, all the guys except me who were suspended NEVER knew before how to do exploits, because they never took time enough to look on their phones how to do. Plus, they did it lately, meaning than even 2 months ago, they didn't know about all that and even didn't need that to go T1.

      If your Wiki thread is able to keep all posts and messages up, I wonder if mine will remain long time here.

      By the way, as you know who I am, I thank you for all links provided, too. And all things that are said.


      Sly

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    • Itsme5712 wrote:this event cost me over $1900 ....

      Dumbfounded, aghast, shocked, dismayed. Pick one, pick 'em all. I simply don't know what to think at reading something like that. I think I'll leave it at this:

      I am glad for your sake that you have left this game.

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    • cheese and rice, inactive all weekend and i login to this soap first thing monday morning, lol.  Everyone has received Kudos from me as everyone has posted good solid points and it is unanimous that we're all on the same page.  I move that we elect 3 representatives to represent this wiki on the Mobage facebook page.  We do exactly what we've just done here and our representatives relay that information for us to this Alex guy and the rest of Mobage.  If too many of us post on the face book page it might get overwhelming for Mobage to respond and act efficiently.  All in favor?   


      Edit:  I'm typing my email now to Mobage supporting everyone of you as well.  Thanks to everyone contributing and voicing their opinions here.   

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    • I 2nd this prime we defo need representing to mobage

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    • Hi Alex with the due respect, what do you think that the mails we sent to Mobage are for? For say hello?

      What you say is correct in part, do not know what happens exactly but we know what you published in TFL's blog and the official facebook page, plus what the cheaters said, plus what Runamuk Prime posted. But one thing remains above all, and that is you give them to the cheaters one week off, in a campagin event so they can rest and comeback whit their forged decks to maintaining the advantage over the rest. When in your TOS you expressly specified that every item obteined by cheats, exploits, hacks, bots, mods or third party software designed to gain an advantage, perceived or actual, over other Members, or modify or interfere with the Service;Abuse or exploit a bug, glitch or mechanism in the Service; willl be removed and the account banned.

      So let me ask you what part of this so called righteous Robins Hoods didn't do?

      All violations of the tos will get the account banned according your owns rules! So what is this short vacacions to this grouptarded who  intentionally made ​​public his intention of screw Mobage, so still you show us bias to them as when you choose their site to announce the itsme ban, not mobage's fb page, not the offial blog, not the wiki , them the boycott page, the same guy's page that 2 months later you said to them:

      "I have since seen this tactic (the boycott) become a tool that you guys are willing to abuse.

      The idea that you would organize and launch a boycott because the TFL Team decided to launch an event that you and your group do not prefer is incredibly selfish.

      I hate to say it, but to sum up my thoughts on the boycott given the way you have presented the idea,

      "We do not negotiate with terrorists.""

      And also you said:

      "you couldn't (boycott group) possibly represent the hundreds of thousands of people playing TFL"

      And yet is the only gruop you listen and it seem you obey.

      So that is like this all situation looks because you guys only give them a slap in the wrist because was their first time! awwwww! what a merciful you are!! They are trying to "boycott" you and you caugt them hacking the app and cheating for over the rest of the players and you forgiven them!!!! Woah!!!! Really???

      How do you think the rest of the community will react?? And you ask why the animosity?

      Don't you see a little inconsistency in your actions and what you claim?

      The animosity comes at least for me from your preference to one group and the indiference to the others (Tfl-Wiki, Appinvasion TFU TFW2005, etc) 

      You said don't engage on outside community hubs because it would be unfair to others. but we saw a lot of comunications between you and  the boycotters (why you show preference if they are boycotting Mobage!!!!!!)

      About Itsme punishment

      Problem is neither player nor have to know how to operate a certain business, they do not put a poster explaining how to handle your business and if you ask they would deny

      The fault of itsme was passing her ID name and password for what you say she was banned originally, Now you say that the harshness of the punishment has to do with how the other company do their bussiness. But what has to do the player whith that, one buy in good faith.

      Do not you think it is up to the authorities punish with legal tools that company and not punish the player with that hardness?

      And don't you think it is a little bit hypocritical the way you punish her ​​for what she did when you allow that company still continues to advertise theirs business in your own network?

      "You cannot steal John Doe's credit card to get ahead in TFL. There is no wiggle room on that." you say, I say why dont ban that account? if you are so righteous?

      What is the catch here?

      Bottom line is in your TOS say that any player who abuses the code will be banned. Period. And that's what we demand, that you take charge of your words.

      And what is that of community leaders???? and what about if is a democratic group like us? where do you get that idea such tribal / political

      in the wiki there is not chiefs no one bossing around the others like in the facebook pages, we are just a bunch of players/friends

      So, sorry but you have to deal with each of us.

      Roll out,

      Willard


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    • I agree as well, can I just put forward that GOC is an obvious first choice for representing us in this matter?

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    • My thoughts:

      I love transformers, I always will, but this game is very simplistic, and to have this much drama over it is not worth it.

      Darth Jerry has proven just the kind of person he is, something I always knew he was.

      I haven't spent money on this game in a month, and I will not - especially now. I gave a lot of my summer and money to this game only for a company to allow this to happen. I am a fair player, someone who placed consistently in the top 10 on boss events, and someone who is an honest, paying customer. I asked for nothing, no special treatment, I never complained that I deserve more than anyone else, but this is a slap in the face.

      To say what one person did is worse than the other, when Mobage said cheating will not be tolerated, is flat out horseshit.

      Mobage is a joke, 100% fucking joke. I will not spend a dime unless they all get their accounts banned.

      I don't expect those accounts to be banned, so they won't get money from me ever again. I doubt they care, if they did - then any cheating regardless of what level, would not be tolerated.

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    • I haven't spent a penny since Eagle Eye, almost a month. I can't say I won't ever again, but definitely not as I had the past couple of months. Heck, I can't guarantee that I will be playing beyond the new year at all. Mobage can get along without me. In the mean time, just to stupidly remind myself what it was like to start out in this game, I started a new account using my facebook. :-P Still running the other as well.

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    • Permanent bans should have been issued forcefully and without question. I believe that this occurrance had brought to light various issues for all players regarding continuing to compete in this app.

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    • The13thPrime wrote: cheese and rice, inactive all weekend and i login to this soap first thing monday morning, lol.  Everyone has received Kudos from me as everyone has posted good solid points and it is unanimous that we're all on the same page.  I move that we elect 3 representatives to represent this wiki on the Mobage facebook page.  We do exactly what we've just done here and our representatives relay that information for us to this Alex guy and the rest of Mobage.  If too many of us post on the face book page it might get overwhelming for Mobage to respond and act efficiently.  All in favor?   


      Edit:  I'm typing my email now to Mobage supporting everyone of you as well.  Thanks to everyone contributing and voicing their opinions here.   

      I like this idea and am in favor. I think a separate nominating thread should be started if we are all in accord. It is getting pretty loud in here.

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    • Which is why I spend most of my time with SWFC now, even as a free player. Do it, do it now!

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    • I've also been focusing on SWFC. Cheaper to play as I only spent $24 so far and came in  18th in daily leaderboard saturday.

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    • Ry-Guy666 wrote:
      I've also been focusing on SWFC. Cheaper to play as I only spent $24 so far and came in  18th in daily leaderboard saturday.

      TFL should be there too, from a cost perspective.  I'm still shocked that the prices have not come down, to coax more players to pay.  That being said, we may see lower prices in the future, only to bring players back.

      Speaking of paid players, itsme: you spent $6,000 in a month, on a video game ... that's awesome!!!  You must have some cash flow to support that spending!  Good for you.

      Mobage: Get your stuff together.  You already showed weakness, but you can still recover.  Your judgement should have been swift, equitable and just.  The ban-hammer exists for a reason, use it!  You won't see another dime from me until I see it.

      And Prax: After skimming this discussion, thank you for your concise post(s).  I usually get more from your one or two sentence posts then others' pages of text.  

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    • Ry-Guy666 wrote:
      I've also been focusing on SWFC. Cheaper to play as I only spent $24 so far and came in  18th in daily leaderboard saturday.

      18 nice! I (playing free of course) end up in the 400s for daily and weekly, which meant no prizes till now. They have updated the prize structure so now I will be getting some nice stuff.

      What did you buy out of curiosity? You can't buy cards directly, which I like, the 5 Star cards mean something.

      Do you have a 5 start card yet? we should be allies!

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    • here's another thought.


      I've always suspected that at least one maybe more T1's or mega decks were actually Moobs/Deena employees of friends exercising cheats.


      Maybe the gang of 6 includes an insider.

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    • YoungBoomski wrote:
      Way to troll/antagonize/provoke that guy Will, real mature. What are you a TFL junior deputy?  

      Sorry I did not understand you, whom you referred?

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    • Ranoake wrote:
      Ry-Guy666 wrote:
      I've also been focusing on SWFC. Cheaper to play as I only spent $24 so far and came in  18th in daily leaderboard saturday.
      18 nice! I (playing free of course) end up in the 400s for daily and weekly, which meant no prizes till now. They have updated the prize structure so now I will be getting some nice stuff.

      What did you buy out of curiosity? You can't buy cards directly, which I like, the 5 Star cards mean something.

      Do you have a 5 start card yet? we should be allies!

      Not including single paid pulls I bought a 1500 crystal 6 pack and pulled a 5* Luke a 4* something and the rest were 3*'s. But you don't always pull 5's as I dropped another 20 this morning and the 6 pack only gave me 1 or 2 4*'s and the rest were 3*s.

      Sure add me my code is 455-554-475 I welcome any TFL ally to join us/me in SWFC. There is lot of us from here in that game now as we are jumping off the sinking TFL ship. This game is extremely overpriced and the power creep / short shelf life of your hard earned rewards is ridiculous. Mobage just lost out on 40 dollars this weekend I gave to their competition rather then them.

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    • To Everyone who's so pxssed off by the leniency of the ban:

      Please tell me why you're so upset by this but there is absolute NO anger over the multi-session cheat and all the cheaters who exploited that bug for so long?  It seems to me that the multi-session cheat had a significantly greater impact on the game (and on the non-cheaters) than this current one.  Why is no one upset by the multi-session cheat?

      I think every honest player should go to Apple or Google and demand a refund for everything they spent on this game as it is apparent that there has always been cheating.  If they don't give you a refund, go to the Better Business Bureau and file a complaint.  Don't go to Mobage, they will just ignore you.

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    • 219.78.8.101 wrote: To Everyone who's so pxssed off by the leniency of the ban:

      Please tell me why you're so upset by this but there is absolute NO anger over the multi-session cheat and all the cheaters who exploited that bug for so long?  It seems to me that the multi-session cheat had a significantly greater impact on the game (and on the non-cheaters) than this current one.  Why is no one upset by the multi-session cheat?

      I think every honest player should go to Apple or Google and demand a refund for everything they spent on this game as it is apparent that there has always been cheating.  If they don't give you a refund, go to the Better Business Bureau and file a complaint.  Don't go to Mobage, they will just ignore you.

      For the record, we were quite upset about multi-sessioning here. We had a thread devoted to the eight Bumblebee screenshot; however, we also discussed it frequently in chat, and I and others have written to Mobage about it in the past. I'm convinced its closure a few episodes ago was at least partially due to some evidence I provided.

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    • I am with you guys, if there offense was only punishable by 1 week, how much money has the past few weeks cost all of us. I am afraid as of now i will not be spending as much as i have been in the past. I have never seen an event like Ghost in the Machine, the last day was ridiculous. I can only assume that this so called handful of players, is probably more like 50-60, at least that is what it felt like to me. I am just happy that the game has not degenerated down to a true " Pay to win Model ", that would be bad, LOL. The core problem is we all love this game, and i know we really dont want it to fail, but for the price of the product we are paying, this game should be virtually flawless in many ways. I know this is a game, but to some of us it is also a passion. Mobage would do well to remeber who feeds their families.

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    • @ Bryanmaness11 Mobage has many mobile games that they support and profit from.

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    • PRAXISZ wrote:
      @ Bryanmaness11 Mobage has many mobile games that they support and profit from.

      I agree but they are profiting from me on this one, so i am a little pissed about this whole slap on a wrist for cheaters. The old saying goes cheaters never win, well tell Mobage that.

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    • Jerry
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    • Not one ounce of regret, acceptance of responsibility, or remorse in that guy. Nothing but excuses and finger-pointing. What a small man.

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    • love how they scream and shout to get itsme banned then go and try EXACT same thing yet another reason why he should be banned

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    • looked like it was taken out of context a little.  but it doesn't make him look too smart.  Rules are Rules, there is no difference between breaking them for nobility's sake or to get a jump on the competition.  I also don't see the point of exploiting but not to get T1... Its so easy to make T2 for a minimal amount; so the guy is just being a prick.

      he's also supporting himself because someone called him out, as if he couldn't back down. Pride in TFL is really important to some people apparently.

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    • Hey Jerry, you're such a dumba**.

      Hows that foot taste?

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    • 24.252.33.123 wrote:
      Hey Jerry, you're such a dumba**.

      Hows that foot taste?

      You make me laugh brotha' :)

      But on a serious note, what bothers me is this guy keeps telling the world that he did this to help us. I mean come on if you really doing this not because u're selfish u could've posted it everywhere and yet u decide to "test" it with ur circle and win really cool deck with the expense of other deserving players (those that pay and spend hours trying to get on top). I mean really? For everyone's sake? To screw Mobage? Seriously stop making other people's sake as an excuse and stop saying u want to screw Mobage, we all feel Mobage is treating its player bad but you could've just walk away......

      Also come on the reason u were shouting at itsme because she was annoying? because u got offended? I mean I never knew her, but she's a girl (from what I can tell from everyones comment)...... U got rattled up because of a girl? really? -_-

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    • Ry-Guy666 wrote:

      Sure add me my code is 455-554-475 

      You can't add by code, only by player ID. What is your handle? It does exact matching only too.

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    • Ranoake wrote:
      Ry-Guy666 wrote:

      Sure add me my code is 455-554-475 

      You can't add by code, only by player ID. What is your handle? It does exact matching only too.


      By code I meant that is my ID to find me. Same handle as per TFL.

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    • I tried "Ry-Guy666". Not found.

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    • Ran you do search by ID and enter 455-554-475 to find me. If that doesn't work for you give me your ID number.

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    • Weird, the number worked... Duuuuh.... 

      Anyone else looking for SWFC allies? I now it's off topic, but what the hey.

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    • Ranoake wrote:
      Weird, the number worked... Duuuuh.... 

      Anyone else looking for SWFC allies? I now it's off topic, but what the hey.

      Hey Ran here

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    • Follow the rabbit hole, Ran. You'll find an awful lot of familiar names! I honestly think we are just rearranging Deck chairs on the Titanic where TFL is concerned...

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    • Well nobody likes ships that heading to an Iceberg! 

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    • Hey Blaise, (That is GoC)


      Thank you for taking the time to reach out to me, I do appreciate the gesture. I'm sorry I have not replied to your email yet, but I hope you can understand that sending an email to our customer service team isn't exactly the best way to contact me, especially considering I had asked you to PM me here on Facebook.

      I'm certainly not ignoring you, but I do have many players to speak with, and sometimes a prompt reply just isn't something I can manage.

      I can only really ask for your patience in this regard. I understand that you guys are not happy that these exploiters were not publicly named, and permanently banned, but that's just not our approach. It was partially our fault that this exploit existed in the first place, and we do believe in second chances. These players are under strict monitoring, and any second offense will of course result in a permanent ban.  Send me a PM, and let's talk about this. To be entirely honest, I was hoping that when you sent your community representative to speak with me, you guys wouldn't come out of the box swinging. This isn't really the best way for us to forge a meaningful relationship, wouldn't you agree? Best, Alex




      For if anybody want to know my answer to his answer


      Alex: 


      "I understand that you guys are not happy that these exploiters were not publicly named, and permanently banned, but that's just not our approach."


      First you say exploiters, knowing that who exploit a code is pursuing cheat the game, therefore in gaming world they are knowing as cheaters. So call them properly at least to respect other players, if you are interested on them.


      Second that it is your approach because that's what you did with Itsme5712, you went straight out to the pseudoboycotters to said to them that "the itsme problem was taken cared"


      "It was partially our fault that this exploit existed in the first place, and we do believe in second chances."


      Well again you don't give a second chance to Itsme5712 and again the fact that a cheap coins dealer has advertised their offers for another inexperienced and naive new player take the offer on their own internal network is because of you, and that third party company is still advertising these deals is still your fault. You show us, to your entire base player that you have two different scales when it comes to faults and punishments, a big punish for a fault and a small punish for a bigger fault. You don't measure neither the intentionality nor the potential perjury that the two different actions haul 


      The fact that your game have so much more flaws than many games of other companies does not relieve serious misconduct of cheaters when they are violating your terms of service which doing that, where explicitly you warning that the overall penalty is be permanent banned


      They, a group that deliberately acted together with the aim of improving methods of exploiting your codes, to pass it to the rest of your group for all of them make it into the first tier and displace a significant amount of honest players and steal their deserved awards, not only is a violation of the TOS but shows a total lack of ethics to attempt to harm the company that owns the game but also to all players who honestly try to win the biggest prize.


      And you do not punish not only the lack of ethics and that action harmful to the interests of other players say that you care so much, but is detrimental to its own commercial interests and prestige, but rather you also reward them allowing them to keep their cards obtained cheating the game and also you give it to them a week's holiday in the event that nobody cares!


      You don't realize the damage that are taking place, the discredit that are gaining to protect a handful of cheaters instead of protecting the large number of honest players who play their games, that lot you boast. No one can understand this actions is the contrary to any reputable company would do. You give the impression that the money of a few are worth more than the many".


      You know that not only I will not just make you a bad publicity every day on your own page, but it will be no magazine or website specialized in videos games and applications for mobile phones that are not aware about your business practices, your decision of the way you choose how treat your base player and your lack of word with regarding the implementation of punishment warned by yourselves in the service regulations.


      And about your last paragraph, find out Alex that I speak for myself,not as a representative of TFL Wikia Group or AppInvasion team. Because I'm not and nor wish to represent to nobody more than himself.


      This is my personal crusade. Don't want nothing more that you retract in your decision to keep his forgiveness to the cheaters.

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    • I thought we were going to do this through representatives, in a more professional way?

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    • I don't need reps to exercise my fundamental right of free speech. And I believe that as a customer I have the right to ask directly to mobage if I have a question to ask. For what I want theirs bureacratics ways? , for they buying time avoiding answering in time!? Don't care what are they requirements to talk to this group. I don't see the same treatment with the others customers from the other group. So I speak for myself. Not as a member of the Wikia Group or AppInvasion team. And if you think that there's something professional involved in this you're wrong. Alex is the most unprofessional public relationship guy that I never see in my life. I am sick of his bullshit. 


      And let me add thi: I was offered to be nominated for rep this group and gratefully I said no. That's because I want to go the hard I feel fit with Mobage, without diplomaticity because that point was passed a long time ago. I am still piss off because every day that Mobage don't give us the proper and rightful answer the cheaters are still playing and probably cheating with their mains accounts or their alternative ones. 

      I being posting on Mobage page in my behalf from weeks now. And not talking of the behalf of anyone but myself. 

      As I said is my personal crusade and pretend drag nobody, if you are agree and want support me, fine. But I won't ask you to do that. 


      For some days was GoC and I who pushed to this point and we had to bashing our asses in several fronts. And I proud of be his friend. I respect him and admire him. But I know that I haven't to ask permission to him or anybody else. 

      Peace 

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    • And by the way, thanks Alex for your meaningless serial courtesy respond. 

      Go f*** yourself 

      F***er


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    • Well, this has gone long enough. :)

      You do understand that Alex is not God, or CEO or King & Queen of mobage? He tells you what his superiors tell him.

      Is he gonna side with you and risk his job? Let's be real, you wouldn't risk your job in his place.

      So you telling him to fuck off shows real maturity in this case. If what we heard was true, that game devs (DeNa) decided to treat latest exploit as temp. ban, you want Alex to do what?

      DeNa is game developer, every thing we report to mobage goes to DeNa, mobage is just a social part implementation in the app. They relay stuff told to them.


      When SSG1 and Wardeal told people here about cheaters, hardly anyone gave a fuck, they were labeled as whiners and told to fuck off, in not so many words. People got tired of them and just wanted to play the game.

      When Masa was banned for a "dev" joke, how many "crusaders" offered to "slit their wrists" in protest? Not many, and when i say not many, i mean really close to zero.


      In all these months, app performance is degrading, power creep is fucking us all, game turned to 150% complete pay2win, and nobody had the idea to vote with their wallet.....until now.

      So "unfair advantage" is the only thing wrong in this game?

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    • definitely disagree with alot of what Alex wrote.  no doubt I"m sure all of you share the same view as me.  will just continue to act as we have stated, I won't spend on a cheater's game, its they way it is.

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    • This is a perfect example of a, "I dont give a fuck what you think, get a life", response there is. If guys dont like this game simply QUIT. No ones ideas have been used, no ones advice has been considered, they (mobage) has proven it time and again. 

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    • @blade 

      First I show to you what he answer me, I don't answer that, yet. That is one reason I don't want be a rep nor want be represented. I want be free to speak out my mind the way I want 

      And what I want, yes I want they retract their decision, because is wrong and I am not the only that is saying that, despite what the logic dictate. 

      Blade if don't like it, sorry I created this thread to speak out my mind and share that. I don't force anybody to come here to read it. 

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    • BladeRy2501 wrote:
      Well, this has gone long enough. :)

      You do understand that Alex is not God, or CEO or King & Queen of mobage? He tells you what his superiors tell him.

      Is he gonna side with you and risk his job? Let's be real, you wouldn't risk your job in his place.

      So you telling him to fuck off shows real maturity in this case. If what we heard was true, that game devs (DeNa) decided to treat latest exploit as temp. ban, you want Alex to do what?

      DeNa is game developer, every thing we report to mobage goes to DeNa, mobage is just a social part implementation in the app. They relay stuff told to them.


      When SSG1 and Wardeal told people here about cheaters, hardly anyone gave a fuck, they were labeled as whiners and told to fuck off, in not so many words. People got tired of them and just wanted to play the game.

      When Masa was banned for a "dev" joke, how many "crusaders" offered to "slit their wrists" in protest? Not many, and when i say not many, i mean really close to zero.


      In all these months, app performance is degrading, power creep is fucking us all, game turned to 150% complete pay2win, and nobody had the idea to vote with their wallet.....until now.

      So "unfair advantage" is the only thing wrong in this game?

      Thank you.

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    • Well that is the mechanics of the game. And that is the way they wanted this run, is their way to make players spend in new cards every event. That's most likely "if you don't like quit" message. 

      About they retract it their policy I found more possible. Cuz that's more perjudicial for their business. That something they saw that people are more willing to accept like the power creep. 

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    • @ Blade- I agree and you are correct in all ways except a partial one. Yes Alex is an employee of Mobage/Dena so of course he spouts the company line and delayed responses as that's his job. But he is also the point contact for Mob/Dena so it is also his job to take the brunt of complaints- rude, belligerent or otherwise. 

      @Blade/Willard  having to deal with customers in a service aspect I don't respond to personal attacks or attacks. Attack the situation not the person dealing with it. you may not get what you want but it usually goes no where when you tell someone to Fuck off.

      @ Willard- I agree this is shit- push em hard however you see fit but remember that most business will simply ignore  or refuse to answer when you tell them to Fuck Off and are abusive. So don't be surprised. 

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    • I don't tell him duck, I am telling you here. What I wrote to him was the post I posted in fb, the one that started with "shame on you Mobage" 

      Nothing else. What I said here is here 

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    • ahh sry for the confusion Willard. And thank you for your efforts.  

      I've said this before but I'm close to being done with TFL. A call to apple to get my unused Cybercash back may soon be in order. it's too bad cause I still enjoy playing. (fyi installing SWFC as I type this)

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    • @greygoose

      if you use my SWFC code, I will make you a cheesecake!

      fsrg77713. Go ahead and add me as an ally too.

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    • Ran- the search didn't work. where do I find mine? I have a 9 digit player number is that it?

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    • Just a quick note guys...

      Let this issue die on Facebook - specifically on the Mobage page. I've been talking to Alex privately, and I'll just say that our voice has been heard but we won't have any response until Monday at the earliest. No promises on anything but I am hopeful, for what that is worth. ;)

      Thanks.

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    • Godofcyanide wrote:
      Just a quick note guys...

      Let this issue die on Facebook - specifically on the Mobage page. I've been talking to Alex privately, and I'll just say that our voice has been heard but we won't have any response until Monday at the earliest. No promises on anything but I am hopeful, for what that is worth. ;)

      Thanks.

      figured your silence meant that you guys were communicating.  thanks for the update buddy, have a good weekend.

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    • This is good news..... hopefully

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    • Greygoose963 wrote:
      Ran- the search didn't work. where do I find mine? I have a 9 digit player number is that it?

      The referral code is separate from your ID. you can find me with my ID, which I neglected to give you, searching by name doesnt work as I have found. My ID is 760-926-942, for adding as an ally.

      For the referral bonus thing, on your home page there is a banner at the bottom that scrolls through a bunch of promotional ads. One is the "enter your code and win stuff". When you enter someones code, you get 100 crystals. Only works once of course. My referral code is fsrg77713. Every time someone enters your code and then reaches level 20 (takes 10 hour straight if you are hard core) you get a good rare. So if you know people that are joining give them your code, it is worth it.

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    • To be honest I don't understand 3/4 of the stuff Willard rants about anyway..

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    • Willard is one creepy stalkerish dude.

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    • 140.32.120.188 wrote:
      Willard is one creepy stalkerish dude.

      Blow me zachker2005. 

      And go with your cheaters buddies on Facebook. 

      Coward. 

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    • I actually said what they did is wrong on this thread, and they are not my "buddies".


      You need to chill guy, this isn't real life. You come across waaaaaay to agreesive and stalkerish. Need to chill out.

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    • And you need to tell me nothing , nobody here ask for your opinion, so if you are still think that Itsme5712 is a guy Get the fuck out of here. 

      You choose them so stick with them. 


      Ps now did you get if? 

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    • Not sure what you just typed there and tried to convey, sorry. You're hard to understand.

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    • I don't know that I would just drop it on Facebook. Mobage would like this to all go away as quickly as possible, at least in the public eye, but we also know they aren't going to do much about it. I would be of the opinion they'll tell you anything to make the bad publicity go away and have a very small likelihood of actually coming through. How many times have you heard that they'll fix something soon, or that they are working on it, only never to have it materialize? And no, 50 transmetals aren't gonna cut it...

      Your only leverage here is your voice, because they feel that us paying suckers are easily replaceable. And they are probably right.

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    • HypnoCT wrote:
      I don't know that I would just drop it on Facebook. Mobage would like this to all go away as quickly as possible, at least in the public eye, but we also know they aren't going to do much about it. I would be of the opinion they'll tell you anything to make the bad publicity go away and have a very small likelihood of actually coming through. How many times have you heard that they'll fix something soon, or that they are working on it, only never to have it materialize? And no, 50 transmetals aren't gonna cut it...

      Your only leverage here is your voice, because they feel that us paying suckers are easily replaceable. And they are probably right.

      Easily replaceable = that's why we still see many deck with few soundwave.

      Bad publicity = that's why alex insist on discussing the matter through direct pm with him not through publicity

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    • I know GoC said to let it die since it sounds like him and "Alex" are working on it. But here we are into the next event and still nothing.

      So I would rather we just bring it right back up again until they address it publically.

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    • GoC will report back to us when he has something.  There is only 35302 players in the current event.  So it makes sense that we've been heard, they need as many of us to pay to play as possible otherwise we're on a sinking ship.  Mobage must step it up, 35,000 players worldwide isn't much.     

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    • Lines of communication are still open.

      I would imagine there will be a decision soon.

      I'm not promising anything.

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    • We're turning blue here from holding our breath so long ;)

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    • Hope so, as I've seen quite a few deck with only jackie and cyclonus

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    • A FANDOM user
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